vincec Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I’ll answer your question with another question? Do we really need a traditional lead blocking FB? I’d almost rather have Moss out there as the lead back 🤷🏾♂️ There is only one ball. So unless Moss is carrying it, he needs to be a better blocker than DiMarco to be an improvement, which is doubtful.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: Nice. I was just thinking about Jamie Mueller, Larry Kinnebrew, Sam Gash, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, vincec said: There is only one ball. So unless Moss is carrying it, he needs to be a better blocker than DiMarco to be an improvement, which is doubtful.. It also makes us much more predictable I would rather have an H back that is a threat to catch it AND can block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: It also makes us much more predictable I would rather have an H back that is a threat to catch it AND can block Yea, it's a little shortsighted that a 2nd back's only value is blocking. The point is to neutralize a guy which could be accomplished in more ways than just blocking. You send Moss out to the flat on one side and Singletary to the other and there could be a lot of confusion. So maybe they're average blockers at best, but they have likely neutralized at least 1 guy who's covering them and possibly caused hesitation in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Yea, it's a little shortsighted that a 2nd back's only value is blocking. The point is to neutralize a guy which could be accomplished in more ways than just blocking. You send Moss out to the flat on one side and Singletary to the other and there could be a lot of confusion. So maybe they're average blockers at best, but they have likely neutralized at least 1 guy who's covering them and possibly caused hesitation in others. I think I'd rather just have a Gabriel Davis on the field. How many teams have a 4th corner who can match up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It also makes us much more predictable I would rather have an H back that is a threat to catch it AND can block 23 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Yea, it's a little shortsighted that a 2nd back's only value is blocking. The point is to neutralize a guy which could be accomplished in more ways than just blocking. You send Moss out to the flat on one side and Singletary to the other and there could be a lot of confusion. So maybe they're average blockers at best, but they have likely neutralized at least 1 guy who's covering them and possibly caused hesitation in others. This is what I was getting at. What a nightmare for defensive coordinators. 17 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I think I'd rather just have a Gabriel Davis on the field. How many teams have a 4th corner who can match up? On 3rd and 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ah, OK, but just looked it up - then he can't come back for 6 weeks Yup. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting <br /> Smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I think I'd rather just have a Gabriel Davis on the field. How many teams have a 4th corner who can match up? Sure, either way you can have someone on the field who does more to neutralize a defender in some way than just a 'blocking back' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Dream is dead for Vosean Joseph. Resigning Milano and rolling with AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: This is what I was getting at. What a nightmare for defensive coordinators. On 3rd and 1? For whatever reason we as fans love dreaming about 2 HBs on the field at the same time, like when we had Lynch and Jackson or Jackson and Spiller, and these conversations take place and then nothing comes of it. I can't think of an offense anywhere in the league that has used it to any great effect in the last 15-20 years. On 3rd & 1 Josh, Diggs and the one HB give you three different running options. Instead of a second HB I'd rather someone who makes us more dangerous on the ground with their blocking (Lee Smith, Kroft, Knox, a 6th OL) or who spreads the defense out (ie Beasley). A second halfback to some extent is wasting a man, seems to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Thank goodness. He just wasn’t worth a spot anymore. Speaking of not being worth a spot, they can’t seriously be going into another season with Bojorquez as punter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, H2o said: This also makes me wonder if at times our 2 RB sets are gonna have both Moss and Singletary on the field at the same time? That would be awesome..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: This is what I was getting at. What a nightmare for defensive coordinators. On 3rd and 1? 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: For whatever reason we as fans love dreaming about 2 HBs on the field at the same time, like when we had Lynch and Jackson or Jackson and Spiller, and these conversations take place and then nothing comes of it. I can't think of an offense anywhere in the league that has used it to any great effect in the last 15-20 years. On 3rd & 1 Josh, Diggs and the one HB give you three different running options. Instead of a second HB I'd rather someone who makes us more dangerous on the ground with their blocking (Lee Smith, Kroft, Knox, a 6th OL) or who spreads the defense out (ie Beasley). A second halfback to some extent is wasting a man, seems to me. Exactly. If a two HB offense was good then you'd at least see a few teams trying it. It's really a relic from another era. And for the people talking about TEs/H-backs, keep in mind that the FB has better vision and better blocking angles than a TE or H-back, so they're generally more effective in the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 back sets in the NFL. Yuck. Throw the ball, get a completion. For Smith, there's a trick to stay on-sides. Just clinch your fist differently for each snap count. You condition yourself with reinforced cues, and no one can tell. When you're exhausted and beat up bad, your IQ plummets. Pre-snap routine is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Hmmm Good, now let's he receive injury settlement and is released. You don't win with these types of players on your roster, talent wins not high motor BS players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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