Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Good luck with that! What's this charge on my phone bill...'one very large LED light bulb, $250.00'. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: What's this charge on my phone bill...'one very large LED light bulb, $250.00'. ? They should just unscrew all the bulbs at the dome and bring them down and screw them in at Sahalens Field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 10:05 AM, PromoTheRobot said: Turns out the players don't want to play in Buffalo 'cause it's icky. Here's the best solution for the Jays: play all road games. When and where did you read/hear/see this? I've done a bit of searching and can't find anything even remotely close to this. What I'm seeing is the players want to play in a Major League Ball Park. Absolutely no particular knock on Buffalo. If they did actually take a swipe at Buffalo for ickyness, can you provide a link of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, The Dean said: When and where did you read/hear/see this? I've done a bit of searching and can't find anything even remotely close to this. What I'm seeing is the players want to play in a Major League Ball Park. Absolutely no particular knock on Buffalo. If they did actually take a swipe at Buffalo for ickyness, can you provide a link of some sort? I think sahlens field is the largest AAA ballpark in the country Definitely probably a turd compared to MLB parks, but it has grass , four bases an outfield with a wall! Edited July 22, 2020 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I think sahlens field is the largest AAA ballpark in the country Definitely probably a turd compared to MLB parks, but it has grass , four bases an outfield with a wall! It is seemingly more about the locker room size.* Pretty cramped when compared to MLB. If I had to play during this, I'd want as much space as possible, I suppose. Might be a bit of a "respect" and "credibility" thing in the minds of some, as well. But I haven't seen anyone disparage Buffalo in particular during this. As sensitive as we tend to be when people take shots at the area, you'd think one of us wouldn't invent a shot when one was not taken. * And the facilities in general might not be up to the standards of most (any?) MLB parks Edited July 22, 2020 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, The Dean said: It is seemingly more about the locker room size. Pretty cramped when compared to MLB. If I had to play during this, I'd want as much space as possible, I suppose. Might be a bit of a "respect" and "credibility" thing in the minds of some, as well. But I haven't seen anyone disparage Buffalo in particular during this. As sensitive as we tend to be when people take shots at the area, you'd think one of us wouldn't invent a shot when one was not taken. I'm not taking it personally Their clubhouse is a dump compared to Major league teams LOL I was joking with the four bases and the outfield wall thing lol Major Leaguers are certainly used to certain accommodations, which sahlen's field probably doesn't have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I'm not taking it personally Their clubhouse is a dump compared to Major league teams LOL I was joking with the four bases and the outfield wall thing lol Major Leaguers are certainly used to certain accommodations, which sahlen's field probably doesn't have I should clarify. I didn't think YOU were taking a shot at Buffalo or taking it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, The Dean said: I should clarify. I didn't think YOU were taking a shot at Buffalo or taking it personally. Buffalo's my home if I want to s*** on it I can! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) You have a special situation here with the pandemic. Everything is less than ideal. You only play a 60-game season, only half at home. You'd think a team could suck it up for two months and deal with a cramped clubhouse. Don't forget they have the entire facility to spread out into. Lighting could have been upgraded by now. The Jays had 6 weeks to work things out. If they had committed to Buffalo most of their grievances could have been addressed. Instead they strung us along like a prom date hoping to do better. Frankly it's hilarious watching them embarras themselves, announcing the deal with Pittsburgh only to have the door slammed in their faces. I hope they enjoy that 60- game road trip. That's going to be sooooo much better than playing home games in Buffalo. Edited July 23, 2020 by PromoTheRobot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I don’t care if they played MLB at all at this point 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Buffalo's my home if I want to s*** on it I can! ? Hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You have a special situation here with the pandemic. Everything is less than ideal. You only play a 60-game season, only half at home. You'd think a team could suck it up for two months and deal with a cramped clubhouse. Don't forget they have the entire facility to spread out into. Lighting could have been upgraded by now. The Jays had 6 weeks to work things out. If they had committed to Buffalo most of their grievances could have been addressed. Instead they strung us along like a prom date hoping to do better. Frankly it's hilarious watching them embarras themselves, announcing the deal with Pittsburgh only to have the door slammed in their faces. I hope they enjoy that 60- game road trip. That's going to be sooooo much better than playing home games in Buffalo. No argument with any of this. Well maybe one thing. Why "suck it up" if you don't have to? What's the purpose of playing in Buffalo if you can make a deal to play in a major league stadium? Why would you begrudge a team for wanting better digs? But that really isn't the point. You accused the Jays of rejecting Buffalo, specifically, because it was "icky" and saying they were too "special" Where the heck it THAT coming from? I think it's coming from YOU as I haven't see/read/heard any other account that is similar to what you proclaimed. For the record, they also haven't jumped on Manchester or Dunedin. Were they too icky too? You seem to be taking this WAY too personally, which I suppose is your perogotive. But why make up false negative allegations against Buffalo? THAT I do not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 What self-respecting Torontian wants to slum in Buffalo... They should just play in Detroit or Cleveland. ? ? ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, The Dean said: No argument with any of this. Well maybe one thing. Why "suck it up" if you don't have to? What's the purpose of playing in Buffalo if you can make a deal to play in a major league stadium? Why would you begrudge a team for wanting better digs? But that really isn't the point. You accused the Jays of rejecting Buffalo, specifically, because it was "icky" and saying they were too "special" Where the heck it THAT coming from? I think it's coming from YOU as I haven't see/read/heard any other account that is similar to what you proclaimed. For the record, they also haven't jumped on Manchester or Dunedin. Were they too icky too? You seem to be taking this WAY too personally, which I suppose is your perogotive. But why make up false negative allegations against Buffalo? THAT I do not understand. I'm not sure why I'm taking this so personally. It just feels like they are stringing Buffalo along. You have to admit this is a major clusterbunch for the Jays. It feels like they were caught flat-footed by the Canadian government's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: I'm not sure why I'm taking this so personally. It just feels like they are stringing Buffalo along. You have to admit this is a major clusterbunch for the Jays. It feels like they were caught flat-footed by the Canadian government's decision. I'm sure they were. Now they are scrambling. They may choose Buffalo after all. But they never took a shot at Buffalo unless I missed it (which is always a possibility). It's sounds like they simply prefer to play in a major league stadium if a deal can be reached. I see nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm not sure why I'm taking this so personally. It just feels like they are stringing Buffalo along. You have to admit this is a major clusterbunch for the Jays. It feels like they were caught flat-footed by the Canadian government's decision. They pretty much were, the city of Toronto and province of Ontario all gave them the Ok, they were permitted to hold training camp there, then a little over a week before they were scheduled to play their opener the Canadian government says no. That's kind of surprising because during all of this, the higher levels of government have all been passing the enforcement and decision making to the provinces and cities. As for Buffalo, in order to play there, the facility needs upgrades for it to be used to bring it up to the league standards. Teams are going to need larger clubhouses because of the required distancing players will need to have. Other MLB teams will already have these things in place. If your a player and going to have to be quarantined to the area for the next 3 months, why would you just accept whatever and not try to get the best location you can? Would you just accept staying in a fleabag motel when there's a chance that a five star hotel could be available to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: They pretty much were, the city of Toronto and province of Ontario all gave them the Ok, they were permitted to hold training camp there, then a little over a week before they were scheduled to play their opener the Canadian government says no. That's kind of surprising because during all of this, the higher levels of government have all been passing the enforcement and decision making to the provinces and cities. As for Buffalo, in order to play there, the facility needs upgrades for it to be used to bring it up to the league standards. Teams are going to need larger clubhouses because of the required distancing players will need to have. Other MLB teams will already have these things in place. If your a player and going to have to be quarantined to the area for the next 3 months, why would you just accept whatever and not try to get the best location you can? Would you just accept staying in a fleabag motel when there's a chance that a five star hotel could be available to you? Well how many major league ballparks are sitting around unused? The idea of sharing a park was quite the long shot as well. Fenway Park doesn't have a massive clubhouse, so they built makeshift lockers in the concourses of the stadium. Could that not have been done at Sahlens Field? Could LED lights been installed in the past few weeks? Could bullpens have been moved to outside the outfield wall? I find it a little hard to accept that a park that is acceptable for Triple-A ball is that far from usable for MLB. I suspect it's more the players not wanting to be in a lesser facility, not that it can't be played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I'm not taking it personally Their clubhouse is a dump compared to Major league teams LOL I was joking with the four bases and the outfield wall thing lol Major Leaguers are certainly used to certain accommodations, which sahlen's field probably doesn't have Sahlen's hot dogs should be ample compensation. 14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Buffalo's my home if I want to s*** on it I can! ? You certainly have a lot to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: You have to admit this is a major clusterbunch for the Jays. It feels like they were caught flat-footed by the Canadian government's decision. Ah...the spirit of J.P. Ricciardi's time in Toronto lives on. He had more 'three year' and 'five year' plans than Stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Maryland doesn't seem to keen on the idea either. Rob Gillies @rgilliescanada The AP interviewed Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan. Asked about the Jays in Baltimore: "We've had some discussions with the Orioles. I don't know the final details of that. Obviously we're watching our numbers very carefully every day. We're concerned about the spikes in other states." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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