DrDawkinstein Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rico said: I would miss the Bills though. I’d be happier if he just slipped on a mat in TC and destroyed his throwing arm. With a $140M injury guarantee, the first day of camp I'd be like "I got a boo-boo. I'm going home. Mail the check!" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To be fair he didn't call him the GOAT. He called him the most talented. I have always said Rodgers is the most naturally talented of my era watching the NFL but I think Mahomes may well take that crown. Fair GB. My apologies as if I make a mistake, I’m always happy to admit it. I too if that is the comment think he is incredibly talented, and yes, I’m a little envious we didn’t take him at 10, vs. trading back for T. White. A man can dream. What would have happened if we took him vs. Taylor that first playoff year. Its been talked about for a few years and I love so far what I’ve seen from Allen, but can anyone honestly say they wouldn’t have rather had Mahomes and draft from there. Thankfully, we at least have IMO, the best cornerback in football. I guess the upside is if we exercise the 5th year option, three years of Allen on a rookie deal securing other guys like White, Dawkins, Milano, and I’m sure I’m missing others over the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Think of all the scratch off tickets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I didnt imagine that, never said or intimated that. And yes a half a billion contract can easily effect a franchise with a value of $2.1 billion, if you can't "imagine" that, it is your problem. What do the Chiefs make in income over 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Fair GB. My apologies as if I make a mistake, I’m always happy to admit it. I too if that is the comment think he is incredibly talented, and yes, I’m a little envious we didn’t take him at 10, vs. trading back for T. White. A man can dream. What would have happened if we took him vs. Taylor that first playoff year. Its been talked about for a few years and I love so far what I’ve seen from Allen, but can anyone honestly say they wouldn’t have rather had Mahomes and draft from there. Thankfully, we at least have IMO, the best cornerback in football. I guess the upside is if we exercise the 5th year option, three years of Allen on a rookie deal securing other guys like White, Dawkins, Milano, and I’m sure I’m missing others over the next couple of years. Mahomes would not have been as good with us, because of the lack of talent there would have been around him. Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin? Ugh! Better last year with Brown and Beasley. This has the makings of a hell of a year for Josh Allen w the talent we have accumulated around him. No reason he should not be a top 10-12 QB this year. And top 5-7 QB going forward after that. If that happens, I don't think we will miss Mahomes too much. Although he sure can play and is super fun to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Makes me want to cry. We could have had him and we let him slip through our fingers. We'd be winning a lot of SB's with Mahomes at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I do but we disagree on who is mad. If you said “Dallas is pissed ?“ I wouldn’t have commented. I interpreted the smiley face as laughing AT the pissed off party. It wasn’t just you either. Others had the same reaction. The point remains that giant contracts, at the same position, are great for impending free agents. They celebrate them because it means they will be getting more. That’s true in all cases. And I did not disagree I merely insinuated that Daks team hasn’t given him what he wants, unlike Pats team, I thought folk would pick up on that. Oh well I guess, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: And yes a half a billion contract can easily effect a franchise with a value of $2.1 billion, if you can't "imagine" that, it is your problem There is literally a salary cap. His contract doesn’t impact their payroll because total salary cost is a fixed amount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And I did not disagree I merely insinuated that Daks team hasn’t given him what he wants, unlike Pats team, I thought folk would pick up on that. Oh well I guess, Yeah, they haven’t yet. He’s going to get 4 years and $160Mish next offseason. If I’m Dallas I probably try to make him play under the tag again but that’s playing with fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Penfield45 said: I Dak is a good QB Yes he is, but he is certainly not a great QB, thus far, I suspect we have seen all Dak has to offer, I think he has already peaked. His individual stats are certainly good, but he and his team under perform. Look at the talent on that team, he’s not getting it done. The truth is, team success is the actual true measure of a QBs success. There are below average teams, average teams, good teams, and great teams, This Dak lead team is between average and good, as of late not so good. Jmo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 22 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: I’m eager to see the dollars behind the deal- could change the landscape for years to come The idiots who run these organizations are slowly realizing that all the money should go to 3 or 4 key, dominant players, who make all the difference between winning and losing. The rest is filler. This is exactly what was predicted at the outset of free agency and salary caps. It's taking a long time to get there, but that shouldn't be surprising given the IQ of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, they haven’t yet. He’s going to get 4 years and $160Mish next offseason. If I’m Dallas I probably try to make him play under the tag again but that’s playing with fire. Well it’s Jurras team so ya never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Seeing this reminds me when a certain orange fella convinced cronies to sue the NFL for being a monopoly. He/they won -and were awarded $2. As such, the USFL folded and we poor, suffering Bills fans suddenly had the best shot to sign the Real Machine Gun Kelly. Sitting on the porch with my Dad, reading the Courier Express how he demanded an $8M contract, I was ecstatic screaming “Sign him! SIGN HIM!!” Typically grumpy Dad harrumphed “Nobody is worth that kinda money! Let him go to the Raiders for Draft picks!” Well, we know how that turned out. Granted, the $HalfB contact is staggering, but to fully see it, he has to be the starting QB of choice for KC for the next decade and meet incentives -likely win totals, playoffs, PBs etc. No organization whose team fails to make the playoffs for 3 or more straight seasons pays their QB that kind of scratch, so he’d be released. The nuts & bolts of the contract from what I’ve learned reading and listening to NFLR is that KC can get out of deal easily in 4 years. Its Great! -don’t get me wrong. But it doesn’t financially strap the team any more than any top tier QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Good for Mahomes. He is going to be the face of the NFL for a long time. He is an exciting player and seems like a nice guy off the field. That being said, I will never cheer for the Chiefs to win a single game as long as they have that scumbag Tyreek Hill on their team. Just think...without the Bills participation, Mahones would probably not have ended up in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Seeing this reminds me when a certain orange fella convinced cronies to sue the NFL for being a monopoly. He/they won -and were awarded $2. As such, the USFL folded and we poor, suffering Bills fans suddenly had the best shot to sign the Real Machine Gun Kelly. Sitting on the porch with my Dad, reading the Courier Express how he demanded an $8M contract, I was ecstatic screaming “Sign him! SIGN HIM!!” Typically grumpy Dad harrumphed “Nobody is worth that kinda money! Let him go to the Raiders for Draft picks!” Well, we know how that turned out. Granted, the $HalfB contact is staggering, but to fully see it, he has to be the starting QB for KC for the next decade and meet incentives -likely win totals, playoffs, PBs etc. No organization whose team fails to make the playoffs for 3 or more straight seasons pays their QB that kind of scratch, so he’d be released. The nuts & bolts of the contract from what I’ve learned reading and listening to NFLR is that KC can get out of deal easily in 4 years. Its Great! -don’t get me wrong. But it doesn’t financially strap the team any more than any top tier QB. Reminds me of the book “football for a buck” on the USFL. Highly recommended , fascinating read. I am convinced Trump is the reason the USFL failed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Gugny said: How did Josh Allen affect how Dak Prescott played on Thanksgiving? Pressure to perform, ego my man ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Pressure to perform, ego my man ego... I'm gonna credit our defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm gonna credit our defense. How many points did our D score last season.... crickets... ? all QBs want to win over every other QB, it’s ego and bragging rights, so there is always pressure for a QB to out perform the QB on the other team, that’s a given. Edited July 7, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Yes he is, but he is certainly not a great QB, thus far, I suspect we have seen all Dak has to offer, I think he has already peaked. His individual stats are certainly good, but he and his team under perform. Look at the talent on that team, he’s not getting it done. The truth is, team success is the actual true measure of a QBs success. There are below average teams, average teams, good teams, and great teams, This Dak lead team is between average and good, as of late not so good. Jmo, Dallas scored 434 points. How is their record his fault? Just say that you hate the Cowboys, hate Dak, and hate pretty much every player without a Bison on his helmet. Pretending that a fourth year QB who just had the best season of his career by a mile in every statistical category is the problem, has peaked, etc. is asinine. He is miles and miles ahead of Allen at this point. If Dak fell from where he currently is and landed where Josh is, he’d be dead on impact. The Cowboys have plenty of problems, but a QB who threw for 4,900 yards, 30 TDs, against only 11 INTs isn’t one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: How many points did our D score last season.... crickets... ? all QBs want to win over every other QB, it’s ego and bragging rights, so there is always pressure for a QB to out perform the QB on the other team, that’s a given. Awe, come on now, you don’t think Dak wanted to beat Josh in the worst way on a nation wide broadcasted game? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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