Texans and Cowboys players test positive

[SirAndrew]

12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

It’s a deadly virus..... to people who are immunocompromised.

And random people who are healthy, you never know if you could be the one, that’s what makes it scary. I know a 20 year old nurse who worked in NYC, ended up hooked to a ventilator. I’m sorry, but that’s scary. We know nothing about the virus, and I’m not advocating prolonged shutdowns. I’m just saying it’s not factual to say you must be immunocompromised to die from the virus. Being immunocompromised is a huge risk factor, as it is with every illness. However, perfectly healthy people have perished. I encourage you to look up deaths of nurses and doctors in NYC. It’s a scary virus, that doesn’t mean I’m telling you to stay home living in fear. I don’t believe we should, but to minimize the danger is a mistake imo. We also have no clue about long term effects.

Edited June 15, 2020 by SirAndrew

[Bferra13]

Man this threads a trainwreck. 

[Captain Caveman]

6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Pardon my French, but to Hell with your opinion. 

 

Simply put, Players ARE going to get the virus. Most likely some of us too. They’re young & in great physical condition while being afforded the very best medical capabilities. The vast majority of people who’ve contracted the disease are not only fine within a month, they’re then immune.

 

”PLAY BALL!”!

 

Ok, are the coaches, trainers, other staff and refs expendable?

 

 

 

[GG]

8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

And random people who are healthy, you never know if you could be the one, that’s what makes it scary. I know a 20 year old nurse who worked in NYC, ended up hooked to a ventilator. I’m sorry, but that’s scary. We know nothing about the virus, and I’m not advocating prolonged shutdowns. I’m just saying it’s not factual to say you must be immunocompromised to die from the virus. Being immunocompromised is a huge risk factor, as it is with every illness. However, perfectly healthy people have perished. I encourage you to look up deaths of nurses and doctors in NYC. It’s a scary virus, that doesn’t mean I’m telling you to stay home living in fear. I don’t believe we should, but to minimize the danger is a mistake imo. We also have no clue about long term effects.

 

How many healthcare workers have been getting really sick or dying since mid-April?

[Magox]

Based off their age and health demographics the odds of one of the football players dying if they were to contract the virus would be less than 1 in 3000.  The question is does the NFL have the will to allow data and the actual low risk to the virus poses to their health guide their decisions as opposed to being driven by media panic porn?

[SirAndrew]

Just now, GG said:

 

How many healthcare workers have been getting really sick or dying since mid-April?

Not a ton, but they did in NYC at the peak. My point was that young, healthy people can be affected, contrary to the beliefs of some. Obviously, the elderly and immunocompromised are but the hardest, but young people have died. That’s scary in and of itself. 

Just now, Magox said:

Based off their age and health demographics the odds of one of the football players dying if they were to contract the virus would be less than 1 in 3000.  The question is does the NFL have the will to allow data and the actual low risk to the virus poses to their health guide their decisions as opposed to being driven by media panic porn?

That’s not the point though. It’s the idea that when someone is “exposed” to the virus, everyone they came into contact with at the workplace is quarantined. This would make the NFL season very tough to play. I’m not sure why this confuses people. It’s not a matter of “ let them play, who cares if they have Covid”, it’s a matter of regular testing causing issues. 

[spartacus]

7 minutes ago, Magox said:

Based off their age and health demographics the odds of one of the football players dying if they were to contract the virus would be less than 1 in 3000.  The question is does the NFL have the will to allow data and the actual low risk to the virus poses to their health guide their decisions as opposed to being driven by media panic porn?

I believe they may have a better chance of being hit by lghtning than dying from covid

7 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Not a ton, but they did in NYC at the peak. My point was that young, healthy people can be affected, contrary to the beliefs of some. Obviously, the elderly and immunocompromised are but the hardest, but young people have died. That’s scary in and of itself. 

That’s not the point though. It’s the idea that when someone is “exposed” to the virus, everyone they came into contact with at the workplace is quarantined. This would make the NFL season very tough to play. I’m not sure why this confuses people. It’s not a matter of “ let them play, who cares if they have Covid”, it’s a matter of regular testing causing issues. 

the answer is obvious

get the team exposed now - so they can't pass it to anybody later

[Magox]

5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Not a ton, but they did in NYC at the peak. My point was that young, healthy people can be affected, contrary to the beliefs of some. Obviously, the elderly and immunocompromised are but the hardest, but young people have died. That’s scary in and of itself. 

That’s not the point though. It’s the idea that when someone is “exposed” to the virus, everyone they came into contact with at the workplace is quarantined. This would make the NFL season very tough to play. I’m not sure why this confuses people. It’s not a matter of “ let them play, who cares if they have Covid”, it’s a matter of regular testing causing issues. 

 

Very few people below the age of 40 have died.  And the ones who have died have several comorbidities.   The average age and profile of the person who has died of COVID 19 is 81 years old with 2.7 comorbidities.

 

NFL teams have the money and resources to conduct daily testing.  They can test the athletes every day before they enter into the facilities.  The testing capacity has grown exponentially over the past couple months and testing capacity will continue to rise over the coming months.  
 

They can get it done.

[GG]

6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Not a ton, but they did in NYC at the peak. My point was that young, healthy people can be affected, contrary to the beliefs of some. Obviously, the elderly and immunocompromised are but the hardest, but young people have died. That’s scary in and of itself. 

That’s not the point though. It’s the idea that when someone is “exposed” to the virus, everyone they came into contact with at the workplace is quarantined. This would make the NFL season very tough to play. I’m not sure why this confuses people. It’s not a matter of “ let them play, who cares if they have Covid”, it’s a matter of regular testing causing issues. 

 

Again, look at what happened in the NBA at the height of the pandemic, when nothing was known.  Two teammates were positive, and nobody else in the organization got seriously ill.  These guys were sharing locker rooms and openly interacting with the team and staff.  There is so much more known about the transmissions and how to handle the illness than before, that the standards that were in place in April no longer apply.   Just like they don't quarantine a Walmart after an employee or visitor tests positive, it's silly to quarantine the entire team if one person is infected.

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, spartacus said:

I believe they may have a better chance of being hit by lghtning than dying from covid

the answer is obvious

get the team exposed now - so they can't pass it to anybody later

Chances of getting hit by lighting are around 1 in a million, so that’s not true. How are they going to expose everyone to the virus? Please inform. 

1 minute ago, Magox said:

 

Very few people below the age of 40 have died.  And the ones who have died have several comorbidities.   The average age and profile of the person who has died of COVID 19 is 81 years old with 2.7 comorbidities.

 

NFL teams have the money and resources to conduct daily testing.  They can test the athletes every day before they enter into the facilities.  The testing capacity has grown exponentially over the past couple months and testing capacity will continue to rise over the coming months.  
 

They can get it done.

You are correct, just saying the narrative that  a healthy young person can’t die from Covid at all is false. The odds aren’t great, but it’s enough to be a little scary.

[GG]

Just now, SirAndrew said:

Chances of getting hit by lighting are around 1 in a million, so that’s not true. How are they going to expose everyone to the virus? Please inform. 

 

Attain herd immunity in a largely young and very healthy group of players, especially that there's more evidence coming out that the virus is weakening.   

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

Chances of getting hit by lighting are around 1 in a million, so that’s not true. How are they going to expose everyone to the virus? Please inform. 

Trump rally in Tulsa would be a good start.  Maybe they could just follow round the campaign?

[SirAndrew]

8 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Again, look at what happened in the NBA at the height of the pandemic, when nothing was known.  Two teammates were positive, and nobody else in the organization got seriously ill.  These guys were sharing locker rooms and openly interacting with the team and staff.  There is so much more known about the transmissions and how to handle the illness than before, that the standards that were in place in April no longer apply.   Just like they don't quarantine a Walmart after an employee or visitor tests positive, it's silly to quarantine the entire team if one person is infected.

What do we know now about handling the virus that we didn’t several months ago ? If players continue to test positive during the season, it would hurt the season. That’s all I’m saying. Wal Mart is different then an entire football team who has been exposed engaging in physical contact with another team. 

Edited June 15, 2020 by SirAndrew

[spartacus]

2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Chances of getting hit by lighting are around 1 in a million, so that’s not true. How are they going to expose everyone to the virus? Please inform. 

not wear masks

and hang out with Zeke Elliott 

[Captain Caveman]

17 minutes ago, Magox said:

Based off their age and health demographics the odds of one of the football players dying if they were to contract the virus would be less than 1 in 3000.  The question is does the NFL have the will to allow data and the actual low risk to the virus poses to their health guide their decisions as opposed to being driven by media panic porn?

 

Well, there are ~ 1700 players (probably more allowing for injuries, etc...) and I would guess most of them will end up getting it over the course of the season due to the nature of the game.  So maybe 50% chance of a player dying from it (not to mention coaches, etc...)

 

Let's say only half the players end up getting it, you're looking at a 25% chance of a death.  That's still not something to dismiss as "media panic porn".

[Bad Things]

Some of you are talking like you aren't even aware that almost 120,000 Americans have already died from this.

[SirAndrew]

2 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

50% chance of dying from it? Where are you getting this?

 

Ebola is 20-25% mortality rate. CCP Virus has anywhere from .2% to .5%

I think he meant if every player got Covid 19, there would be a 50% chance that one would die. He is basically correct imo. 

[Beast]

58 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If the choice is wear masks or don't get paid because the sesson is cancelled, they'll fall in line.

 

LMAO! Oh my, you have never been an athlete, have you?

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, twist_to_open said:

So would everybody be o.k. if we won the Superbowl this year, even if it comes with a big Covid astrick next to it?

 

 I will take that however we can get it.

[LB3]

22 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Well, there are ~ 1700 players (probably more allowing for injuries, etc...) and I would guess most of them will end up getting it over the course of the season due to the nature of the game.  So maybe 50% chance of a player dying from it (not to mention coaches, etc...)

 

Let's say only half the players end up getting it, you're looking at a 25% chance of a death.  That's still not something to dismiss as "media panic porn".

You're extremely bad at data analysis.