May Day 10 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Therein lies the problem with the Sabres compared to the Bills. On this current roster, there is not one player that is remotely considered a leader. Not one. This is a huge problem with this team IMO. While Eichel has a ton of talent, he seems to be not be a very good teammate, let alone captain. The team never seems particularly close to one another and it shows on the ice. There seems to be little/no accountibility among the players. They tried to foster that through Gionta/Gorges, and OReilly wanted to carry that torch but they were largely rejected by the likes of Eichel, Reinhart, Kane, and Bogosian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Skinner was literally 20 seconds of the entire 15 minute clip. He’s not being used the best way he should be. That’s basically all he said. And he brought up his goal scoring totals of the last seasons It was the first thing he brought up after establishing that he is a hockey savant because he coached at a fairly high level, and it was longer than 20 seconds. If he is such a masterful coach he has the ability to prioritize and Skinner is his top priority. He is correct that Skinner isn’t being used the best way......which would have been letting him walk. Now we’re stuck with him for a long contract thanks to Botts and Murray setting up Botts for that particular failure. The best way to use a currently crappy player on an expensive long term contract is to try to get him to be a better player, not to indulge his bad habits. Okposo’s contract is expensive too but almost up; and he gives effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: You can keep burning through coaches if you want, go ahead and fire Kruger and bring in Julien or whatever other guy that got fired that you want. But the problems with this team are obvious, and can be summed up in one word: Eichel He is getting paid to be a superstar and plays, at best, as an average NHL player. He is being paid to be the captain and the leader, and is as far from a leader as you can get. The goal yesterday where he lets the guy waltz right down to the front of the net to score, and then blames Dahlin, is a prime example of his nonsense. And when your supposed leader does this, then it infects the entire team. Get rid of the infection. Trade Eichel and let him poison another franchise. Get guys back that actually want to put forth some effort, go into the corners and hit guys, that want to actually earn their money when on the ice. Dahlin looks like he cares; give him the C on his jersey. Or give it to Staal, a guy who understands what Cup winners need. So far Eichel has burned through a former Stanley Cup winner in Bylsma, a guy that wanted to coach an attacking style in Housley, and now a guy that preaches process and accountability in Kruger. And all three coaches can't get him going? Please. When Kruger was hired and then when Adams got lifted to GM, I saw the Sabres trying to do what worked for the Bills: a coach and GM with a process they felt would lead to success, and who would work in tandem to get players would would match and align in that system. Yes, some will say that their process is flawed, and that they need a coach and GM that match their system to the players. But again, three coaches have tried to do that with a lot of the players on this roster, and none have succeeded? That tells me it's the players and not the systems. And the player most guilty is Eichel. Someone needs to scream at Dahlin because in two consecutive games he has stepped up to make a hit or pinched at terrible times and given up odd man rushes the other way resulting in goals. Eichel is no position to criticize since his dog**** effort gift wrapped the goal last night as he didn't even attempt to tie up his man. Eichel's line was completely ineffective all night except for one or two shifts with Skinner in place of Oloffson. EVERY COACH AND GM HAS A PROCESS!!!! Having a process =/= success. Executing the plan is another matter. If Hall, Montour, and Okposo had the skill to convert on an empty net the discussion might be different today but as it stands this team is no different than the Sabres we watched the past 4 years. Allergic to goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: You can’t see it in this replay, but after the goal Eichel turned and yelled at Dahlin for it. 🤷♂️ I was wrong. He was yelling at the ref about Coutourier holding his stick. He still doesn’t have anyone to blame but himself for that goal, but at least he wasn’t yelling at Dahlin, I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 11 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I was wrong. He was yelling at the ref about Coutourier holding his stick. He still doesn’t have anyone to blame but himself for that goal, but at least he wasn’t yelling at Dahlin, I guess. With the way Dahlin has played this season, he needs to get yelled at often. He coasts. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hey! The Sabres didn’t lose today! True, they didn’t score again, but it’s a start!😉👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Not pictured: The lead weight known as Jeff Skinner around the ankles of that little Sabre kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Not pictured: The lead weight known as Jeff Skinner around the ankles of that little Sabre kid. You’re pretty weird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: You’re pretty weird Just wait until he starts drawing comparisons between Skinner and some third world despot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Cozens showing heart! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Cozens showing heart! Well, that’s at least one on the team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Goal this offseason should be to get as much of the roster turned over as possible. “Core” is awful and just doesn’t work together. Bad attitudes and a void of leadership has plagued them for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Team president and the end of amateur hour would be nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Team president and the end of amateur hour would be nice Sure would. But I don’t see it happening, unless Ralph moves into a team president role. Kevyn Adams hasn’t even hired any assistant GMs, and the Pegulas promoted him to GM (without even an interview) because apparently they felt “burned” by the experienced career hockey people they had running things before (which is crazy because they literally never had experienced hockey ops people running anything since they took over. Every GM was a rookie)... so I’d be shocked if they went outside the organization for a team president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Draft picks from 2013 to 2017. In theory, these are the "mature" players who should be currently leading this team. Bold = Currently playing for Sabres 2013 1 8 Rasmus Ristolainen 2013 1 16 Nikita Zadorov 2013 2 35 J. T. Compher 2013 2 38 Connor Hurley 2013 2 52 Justin Bailey 2013 3 69 Nicholas Baptiste 2013 5 129 Cal Petersen 2013 5 130 Gustav Possler 2013 5 143 Anthony Florentino 2013 6 159 Sean Malone 2013 7 189 Eric Locke 2014 1 2 Sam Reinhart 2014 2 31 Brendan Lemieux 2014 2 44 Eric Cornel 2014 2 49 Vaclav Karabacek 2014 3 61 Jonas Johansson 2014 3 74 Brycen Martin 2014 5 121 Maxwell Willman 2014 6 151 Christopher Brown 2014 7 181 Victor Olofsson 2015 1 2 Jack Eichel 2015 2 51 Brendan Guhle 2015 4 92 Will Borgen 2015 5 122 Devante Stephens 2015 6 152 Giorgio Estephan 2015 7 182 Ivan Chukarov 2016 1 8 Alexander Nylander 2016 2 33 Rasmus Asplund 2016 3 69 Cliff Pu 2016 3 86 Casey Fitzgerald 2016 4 99 Brett Murray 2016 5 129 Philip Nyberg 2016 5 130 Vojtech Budik 2016 6 159 Brandon Hagel 2016 7 189 Austin Osmanski 2016 7 190 Vasily Glotov 2017 1 8 Casey Mittelstadt 2017 2 37 Marcus Davidsson 2017 2 54 Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen 2017 3 89 Oskari Laaksonen 2017 4 99 Jacob Bryson 2017 7 192 Linus Weissbach You can see how much they have "whiffed" on their drafting. Edited March 3, 2021 by \GoBillsInDallas/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Sure would. But I don’t see it happening, unless Ralph moves into a team president role. Kevyn Adams hasn’t even hired any assistant GMs, and the Pegulas promoted him to GM (without even an interview) because apparently they felt “burned” by the experienced career hockey people they had running things before (which is crazy because they literally never had experienced hockey ops people running anything since they took over. Every GM was a rookie)... so I’d be shocked if they went outside the organization for a team president. No, I dont either. When they fired Murray, Terry Pegula sat there in front of a microphone and said their biggest mistake was giving up control to somebody (LaFontaine). That is what needs to happen. Kicking Kruger to the front office does nothing. He doesnt seem to have any idea how to win in the NHL, nor does he have any real NHL experience. They have almost no hockey staff right now save Kim and terry Pegula, Adams from Harborcenter, and Kruger from Soccer and Swiss hockey. They also promoted 2 internal, inexperienced nobodies to all-encompassing umbrella roles of 'director of scouting' and 'director or analytics'. Things will not change until the Pegulas give up control to a Dudley, Lombardi, etc at the top of the organization. It is in such disrepair it is a HEAVY lift. This is much worse than the Bills ever were throughout the drought. It is going to get worse when Eichel demands out, Reinhart wants out, all 3 of their NHL goalies are UFA, and they compound their bad decisions with more bad decisions (waiting for Hall's 8-year contract). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Ralph trying to change Skinner's style of play did not work last season , did not work this season. That's not good for $9M a year. Good article by Paul Hamilton https://www.wgrz.com/article/sports/hamilton-buffalo-sabres-dont-have-the-players-to-execute-ralph-kruegers-system/71-d66793d8-d69b-4fa1-9c14-bd9c8d5f279c Edited March 3, 2021 by ALF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ALF said: Ralph trying to change Skinner's style of play did not work last season , did not work this season. That's not good for $9M a year. Good article by Paul Hamilton https://www.wgrz.com/article/sports/hamilton-buffalo-sabres-dont-have-the-players-to-execute-ralph-kruegers-system/71-d66793d8-d69b-4fa1-9c14-bd9c8d5f279c Skinner’s “style of play” was as conducive to helping a winning franchise as a Jackrabbit’s “style of running” would be to winning marathons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 What was Dahlin doing on the first goal against? Trying to draw the eventual goal scorer soccer Offside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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