Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, JohnC said: Gronk is going to be a near unanimous selection to the HOF when he is eligible. Compared to what he got paid with the Pats he could have gotten more if he played for another team. And the same argument applies to Brady who is arguably the GOAT qb in the modern era. As I said before New England runs a different operation compared to other teams. Gronk got top dollar from NE. That wasn’t a discount. Brady is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Weo, I checked Spotrac and if I read correctly, he made $15, $3, and then averaging around $9 mil the last four years. I wouldn’t exactly call that low $ so spot on Weo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Come on, Beane. Trade them your flat screen tv and golf clubs for Kittle. Make this happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Just realized the article I got gronks numbers from had Olsen deeper in it. Didn’t find Graham’s yet... OLSEN VS. SAFETIES/LINEBACKERS, 2016-17Targets: 117Receptions: 69Receiving yards: 975TD-INT: 4-0Passer rating: 97.4 OLSEN VS. CORNERBACKS, 2016-17Targets: 39Receptions: 20Receiving yards: 199TD-INT: 0-0Passer rating: 66.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Hooper is making 10.5. Henry is getting the franchise amount (10.6). Franchised next season, Kittles wouldn't make less than either of them are getting now. Yeah, they'll probably offer him $11-12M/year, he'll reject it, and then they'll franchise him for around $10M for the year. Where they end up is anyone's guess but I'm betting close to $15M/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 hours ago, NewEra said: What’s not to understand? You said that Kelce was better because he’s more proven m....based on four elite seasons played while Kittle has 2. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, have 10+ elite seasons. Mahomes has 2. They’re more proven than Mahomes.....yet Mahomes is better than them and everyone else. Gotcha. Yes. A 24 year old Mahomes is better than a 42 year old Brady, a 41 year old Brees and a 36 year old Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Gotcha. Yes. A 24 year old Mahomes is better than a 42 year old Brady, a 41 year old Brees and a 36 year old Rodgers. And a 31 year old Russell Wilson. And every QB in the world. Yet he’s only been elite for 2, so other must be better because they’re more proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: And a 31 year old Russell Wilson. And every QB in the world. Yet he’s only been elite for 2, so other must be better because they’re more proven Kittle may be slightly more aggressive after the catch. He does nothing else better than Travis Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: And he was never paid like a top WR. Bosa et al couldn't retire Mahomes and Kelce. Mahomie would've shamed Brady as well, Bosa would've snapped Brady in half, maybe if the rest of the 49er line were more mobile they would've helped Bosa out against Mahomes. 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: Kittle may be slightly more aggressive after the catch. He does nothing else better than Travis Kelce. They both have a mean sexy dance that is hard to judge...maybe if they turned it into a lapper I could decide better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah......because Kelce and Kittle are usually blocking on passing plays?. Mahomes’ targets are also more adept at getting open. kittle is trying to reset the TE market. Just because Graham’s didn’t 5 years ago doesn’t mean that Kittle can’t. Whether that happens or not is tbd. My bet is him getting around 15 mill a year, which is approx 50% more than the current highest paid TE. Sounds like resetting the market to me. Time will tell. When Austin Hooper gets 11... And kittle is a lot better than him... He will get a lot more. 15 seems about right, wouldn't surprise me if it was more. 12 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Kittle may be slightly more aggressive after the catch. He does nothing else better than Travis Kelce. He is a very good blocker, and also a tremendous athlete. 4 years younger than kelce too. Kittle prob signs for 4 years to set up another contract at age 30. My guess is 4/60ish 3 years of practical guarantees and he gets an extension after 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, they'll probably offer him $11-12M/year, he'll reject it, and then they'll franchise him for around $10M for the year. Where they end up is anyone's guess but I'm betting close to $15M/year. They can’t “franchise him for around 10”....because this year it’s 10.6 and will likely be 11 next year. More than Hooper and Henry (unless Henry is franchised again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, they'll probably offer him $11-12M/year, he'll reject it, and then they'll franchise him for around $10M for the year. Where they end up is anyone's guess but I'm betting close to $15M/year. Its a slap in the face at 11. He wants to be the McCaffrey of TEs, as he believes he is that much better than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, dneveu said: When Austin Hooper gets 11... And kittle is a lot better than him... He will get a lot more. 15 seems about right, wouldn't surprise me if it was more. He is a very good blocker, and also a tremendous athlete. 4 years younger than kelce too. Kittle prob signs for 4 years to set up another contract at age 30. My guess is 4/60ish 3 years of practical guarantees and he gets an extension after 3. Hooper is getting 10.5. Why would SF pay him 50% more than top dollar?? Who are they bidding against? No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They can’t “franchise him for around 10”....because this year it’s 10.6 and will likely be 11 next year. More than Hooper and Henry (unless Henry is franchised again). $10M or $10.6M doesn't make a difference. It's not like he's going to care about the extra $600K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc said: $10M or $10.6M doesn't make a difference. It's not like he's going to care about the extra $600K. He would be the highest paid of the 3 They can’t pay him 10, or 10.6. Edited May 31, 2020 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: He would be the highest paid of the 3 I doubt he's looking to be the highest paid by $500K or so, especially when his production is 50% greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: I doubt he's looking to be the highest paid by $500K or so, especially when his production is 50% greater. They don't pay you based on number of yards or receptions relative to the next guy. That should be obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: They don't pay you based on number of yards or receptions relative to the next guy. That should be obvious. Tell that to Kittle and his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Tell that to Kittle and his agent. lol I hardly have to--they can make any demand they want. They can ask for 15 millions a year.....and then get handed the franchise tender. And again the next year. Or he can hold out and make nothing for as long as he likes. Guess Darren Waller best be calling Kittle's agent too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol I hardly have to--they can make any demand they want. They can ask for 15 millions a year.....and then get handed the franchise tender. And again the next year. Or he can hold out and make nothing for as long as he likes. Guess Darren Waller best be calling Kittle's agent too? Or Kittle can hold out and watch that offense go down the dumper. There are many ways to play it. As for Waller, LOL! Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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