JoPoy88 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 If they give Dak $45mil a year for what, 4 years? First, they’re crazy. Second, what is the guaranteed money going to be on that? Third, if Dak gets that, what on earth is Mahomes going to cost the Chiefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: If they give Dak $45mil a year for what, 4 years? First, they’re crazy. Second, what is the guaranteed money going to be on that? Third, if Dak gets that, what on earth is Mahomes going to cost the Chiefs? If Dak gets $45 mil , Mahomes will get 5 years $250 mil , all guaranteed There is no way in hell Dak deserves to be the highest paid QB not even for a day .. If Dallas was to trade Dak How much draft capital could they get for him ? Keeping in mind they would have to make him the highest paid QB in the league. Would someone give up two first round picks for him ? Edited May 22, 2020 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Putin said: If Dak gets $45 mil , Mahomes will get 5 years $250 mil , all guaranteed It would have to be something like that yeah. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Greg S said: Too much money for a good but not great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: You’re putting words in my mouth and taking what I said out of context. I didn’t say we are awesome. I didn’t even evaluate Josh Allen. But if you want to go that route... Josh Allen made the plays he had to this year to get us to the playoffs, and with less on offense at that. He made the plays on thanksgiving. Dak didnt. Dak cost them that game and that’s a big deal because that’s Dallas’ day to own the NFL and even America. Dallas has to have a guy that wins that game every year. Asides from the playoffs, it’s their most important game. Imo, he showed his true worth when he lost that game, the game against NE, and the game against Philly who had a decimated secondary. And guess what.. no way in hell hes worth that much. The "Dak isn't a winner" argument is a strange one. He has been an NFL QB for 4 years, after being taken in the 4th round of the draft. Last year was their worst record in that time at 8-8. He won two division titles in his first three years, and a playoff game. Did Dallas underachieve last year? Too right they did. But pinning all of that on Dak and then using that to suggest he can't win games that matter is absolutely nuts. I'd argue Dak was probably their second best player last year after Zack Martin. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 What has he done to deserve $35M per? Ridiculous. It just feels like that kind of money should be reserved for a Playoff winning QB that’s on the edge of a Super Bowl victory. Jerry Jones is running his own team into the ground. 5 yr $125M makes more since... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: If they give Dak $45mil a year for what, 4 years? First, they’re crazy. Second, what is the guaranteed money going to be on that? Third, if Dak gets that, what on earth is Mahomes going to cost the Chiefs? It's not 45 PER year (as in 180 for 4 years), it's 45 for A year. Specifically the last year of the 4 year deal he wants and less than 45 for each of the first 3 years. Still ridiculous, but get it straight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: It's not 45 PER year (as in 180 for 4 years), it's 45 for A year. Specifically the last year of the 4 year deal he wants and less than 45 for each of the first 3 years. Still ridiculous, but get it straight. Not quite. $45m is the number he wants to take a FIFTH year. Basically Dak wants to double dip. He wants another big contract / potential FA date at age 29. He will sign for 4 years for big money... but he wants crazy money for year 5 if the Cowboys want to tie him in for that extra year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I wonder where the “North of $45M” thing is coming from. If it’s really from Dan’s side or if it’s from the Cowboys’ side to make him look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: You think Dak is going to take 30 m million a year on a long term deal?? That makes one of you! His tag is over 31 million this season. lol And the money doesn't make one better than the other. Prescott is going to cost them 35 million a year to throw under 4000 and 30 TD a year for an occasion season in double digit wins. Better off with the stopgap and reload at QB. Prescott is worth more in trade than wins per dollars for that team. No that’s what he’s been offered. Was Dalton offered $30M+ a year? Yes, how much you get paid in the NFL is directly correlated with ability. That’s why good QB’s makes more than bad QB’s. Dalton didn’t take $7M this offseason because he had some other team offering $30M. Fair enough, but you were still definitely wrong about Dalton not being a downgrade. I think that rolling with Dalton is a big ole waste of everyone’s time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Wow... I don't think he is worth more than $30M a year and that's being generous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Wow... I don't think he is worth more than $30M a year and that's being generous Same here. I’ve never thought the guy was all that good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Not quite. $45m is the number he wants to take a FIFTH year. Basically Dak wants to double dip. He wants another big contract / potential FA date at age 29. He will sign for 4 years for big money... but he wants crazy money for year 5 if the Cowboys want to tie him in for that extra year. This. Cowboys want him to sign a longer deal. Dak says “fine, then you’re gonna have to pay for it because all the QBs will be getting $45 mil by the time that year hits.” Nothing wrong with his negotiations IMO based on the leaks so far. They’re just both hard balling each other. Edited May 22, 2020 by DCOrange 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This. Cowboys want him to sign a longer deal. Dak says “fine, then you’re gonna have to pay for it because all the QBs will be getting $45 mil by the time that year hits.” Nothing wrong with his negotiations IMO based on the leaks so far. They’re just both hard balling each other. Exactly that. He is basically saying "it is $35m avg. for 4 years. If you want the extra year that is almost a separate negotiation." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, FireChans said: No that’s what he’s been offered. Was Dalton offered $30M+ a year? Yes, how much you get paid in the NFL is directly correlated with ability. That’s why good QB’s makes more than bad QB’s. Dalton didn’t take $7M this offseason because he had some other team offering $30M. Fair enough, but you were still definitely wrong about Dalton not being a downgrade. I think that rolling with Dalton is a big ole waste of everyone’s time. Cowboys should let another team pay Prescott 35+M he's looking for. The can't get to the SB with this guy, this much is clear (see: 2019). Once they sign him to a giant contract, they are stuck with him middling along for years--un-tradeable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Cowboys should let another team pay Prescott 35+M he's looking for. The can't get to the SB with this guy, this much is clear (see: 2019). Once they sign him to a giant contract, they are stuck with him middling along for years--un-tradeable If “middling along” is 4,902 yards, 30 TDs and 11 INTs sign me up!! If Allen has that year we will throw a parade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: If “middling along” is 4,902 yards, 30 TDs and 11 INTs sign me up!! If Allen has that year we will throw a parade. 8-8 on a stacked roster in a bad division middling along. Josh and the Bills did better with less in a tougher division. If the Bills go 8-8 this year, there won't be a parade for you to go to. Unless they are handing out pitchforks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 8-8 on a stacked roster in a bad division middling along. Josh and the Bills did better with less in a tougher division. If the Bills go 8-8 this year, there won't be a parade for you to go to. Unless they are handing out pitchforks. You said “him” middling along not “them” middling along. Let’s not move the goalposts again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: You said “him” middling along not “them” middling along. Let’s not move the goalposts again... He's had one decent season--and even then, they went nowhere. He's a middling QB. There. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The "Dak isn't a winner" argument is a strange one. He has been an NFL QB for 4 years, after being taken in the 4th round of the draft. Last year was their worst record in that time at 8-8. He won two division titles in his first three years, and a playoff game. Did Dallas underachieve last year? Too right they did. But pinning all of that on Dak and then using that to suggest he can't win games that matter is absolutely nuts. I'd argue Dak was probably their second best player last year after Zack Martin. They did have the most yards in the NFL last year, and 6th most points... The defense did a good job yardage wise but they had few takeaways (7 games with 0 takeaways, 2-5 in those games). Dak's coming off a year where he threw for 1100 more yards than ever before, kept INTs relatively low, sack numbers way down on a per snap basis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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