Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: Well, through eight weeks in the Madden simulation that NFL.com is running, we are three and five. So, simulations are a farce. As far as I can recall, Adam Gase is still the coach in New Jersey. I think that tells us all we need to know. He had the best record in the AFCE second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 If they don’t lose their LB in last years opener, they win. Granted, we rested starters in the finale, but they smacked us around. Both teams are pretty even, imo. What gives us the advantage over them is McDermott vs. Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Greg S said: LOL. I say this as a Jets season ticket holder. GM Joe Douglas had a good draft and I do think he will eventually build up their roster like Beane did. But it will take more than one year to fix that team. With Gase as the HC they won't win. Every Jets fan I know doesn't like him as their HC. I do think Darnold is better QB than Allen but the Bills are the better team all around. If they can't beat the Jets then this Bills team isn't nearly as good as we thought. I think the Jets are a 6-8 win team. Their D is respectable but the Bills should sweep them this year. I can understand a Jets fan with this opinion, as of TODAY, meaning presuming all progress for both QBs were to be frozen and they'd have reached their pinnacle, then I can see it. Otherwise, given Josh's monumental development from year 1 to year 2, and the belief he will take at least some semblance of similar strides, I think Allen is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I like the Jets more than most on this board but they have serious flaws on their roster to be HEAVILY favored is insane. I get picking the Jets as a dark horse team if you like Darnold and like what they did to rebuild their O-line but to heavily favor them over a much better constructed Bills team and the perennial power house Pats is insane. The Jets don't have a good receiving core, Quincy is always hurt, they lost a good receiver in Robby Anderson and replaced him with Perriman a lateral move in a best case scenario and drafted a receiver in round 2. I don't see their receiving core doing much and with a lack of an outside threat that is going to hamper Lev Bell and what that offense can do against better defenses. The Jets defense is mid-level at best, their front 7 if Mosley stays healthy is good against the run but subpar rushing the passer and their secondary is trash besides Jamal Adams. And what will sink the Jets far beyond their on field issues is Adam Gase. Gase is just not a good coach. The Jets GM did a good job of building back the O-line and keeping them from getting locked into too many more large contracts but they are a year away on the field and their coach will be a long term hinderance to their success. 40 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I can understand a Jets fan with this opinion, as of TODAY, meaning presuming all progress for both QBs were to be frozen and they'd have reached their pinnacle, then I can see it. Otherwise, given Josh's monumental development from year 1 to year 2, and the belief he will take at least some semblance of similar strides, I think Allen is better. I actually like Darnold better at least next season. I think both QB's will be good long term but Josh is a year away from being a bonafide top 5-7 QB whereas I feel like Darnold could make a leap into the top 10 in 2020. But Darnold's team and coaching has held him back. Overall I think that 2 years from now I would be on Josh being the better QB if he can harness his abilities and continue to work hard. But in 2020 and possibly 2021 I could see Darnold being a better QB on a lesser team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It’s pretty close between Darnold and Allen. Although Darnold has some ability to make plays with his legs, Allen is more atheltic and clearly better at this than he is.... Darnold is the better passer at this point. This year should tell a lot. I disagree I think Allen overall is the better QB. Darnold has yet to do anything to help his team elevate to the next level. I guarantee if Darnold screws up this year, the jets will probably be looking for a new QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It’s pretty close between Darnold and Allen. Although Darnold has some ability to make plays with his legs, Allen is more atheltic and clearly better at this than he is.... Darnold is the better passer at this point. This year should tell a lot. How is Darnold definitively the better passer? If you extrapolated his numbers to 16 games, you'd have Darnold with a couple more TDs, but about twice as many INTs. Allen has a slightly higher rating, and both fumble a lot. Darnold's completion rate is slightly higher, but that's not the only metric there is. The eye test is subjective, but I'm in NYC and see a lot of Darnold and he clearly does not have the leadership of Allen yet -- he probably will, but he just had a rocky season. Darnold has a lot of potential, but has not quite put it together yet. My sense is he's more likely to have a very good season than a bad season, but he also has far fewer receivers than Allen. Allen's slightly closer. Both showed improvement over the course of the season. 3 hours ago, eball said: Fraudulent site, trying to play off the legitimate CBS Sportsline feed...check out the handle...they are using an 'l' instead of an 'i'... Shut this down. Ha, I saw this on Twitter earlier today and the thread was full of Jets fans making fun of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 If the COVID epidemic taught me anything, the primary lesson learned is: experts and their models and simulations are generally bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Vegas disagrees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Um, this isn’t a real site? They have 50 followers and respond to legitimate questions like this. Feel like we should shut this down and not give this child any more attention. This isn’t real. https://twitter.com/SportsLine SportsLine is a real site and twitter. The one you quoted is a parody account that has two Ls, @SportsLLne, the second L is lowercase to try to fool people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He had the best record in the AFCE second half of the season. And lost to the Bengals and won against the second team of the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: They did? The only thing that game told me was Matt Barkley doesn’t belong anywhere on a football field in an NFL game and the Bills are ***** if that happens for a substantial amount of time. Yes, we were never in that game -because Barkley doesn’t belong anywhere on a football field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Bangarang said: Joined Twitter in February and have 50 followers. Why is this even a discussion? 4 hours ago, eball said: Fraudulent site, trying to play off the legitimate CBS Sportsline feed...check out the handle...they are using an 'l' instead of an 'i'... Shut this down. 2 hours ago, Capco said: Yup, I noticed the lower case L instead of a lower case I in the name. Definitely bogus. How did you guys all manage to only find the fake SportsLLne and not the real https://twitter.com/sportsline ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: https://twitter.com/SportsLine SportsLine is a real site and twitter. The one you quoted is a parody account that has two Ls, @SportsLLne, the second L is lowercase to try to fool people. The fake one is what this thread was based on. What the OP is mad about isn’t real. Edited May 20, 2020 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: I can understand a Jets fan with this opinion, as of TODAY, meaning presuming all progress for both QBs were to be frozen and they'd have reached their pinnacle, then I can see it. Otherwise, given Josh's monumental development from year 1 to year 2, and the belief he will take at least some semblance of similar strides, I think Allen is better. Seeing as no progress is guaranteed, I’m not sure what this means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The fake one is what this thread was based on. What the OP is mad about isn’t real. Ahh, right on. Makes sense now. They did a parody "simulation" and named the Jets the run away winner to get the reactions like we're seeing here. Gotcha, thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea I didn’t put too much credit into that run they had.... Baltimore annihilated them and they hung on for a narrow victory against an atrocious group of offensive backup players the Bills trotted out there. And yet it was a one TD game throughout... Ok. Don’t wish to argue. Just answer this; did you continue to believe we could win the game, or were you certain by the 3rd quarter that we didn’t stand a chance. If you choose the former, we’ll agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 In before the L - - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Um, this isn’t a real site? They have 50 followers and respond to legitimate questions like this. Feel like we should shut this down and not give this child any more attention. This isn’t real. they hope people think it’s CBS Sportsline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I wouldn't sweat it pal ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Um, this isn’t a real site? They have 50 followers and respond to legitimate questions like this. Feel like we should shut this down and not give this child any more attention. This isn’t real. In fairness great troll job though. 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: If they don’t lose their LB in last years opener, they win. Granted, we rested starters in the finale, but they smacked us around. Both teams are pretty even, imo. What gives us the advantage over them is McDermott vs. Gase. I agree. Last year their talent was very similar. Coaching was the difference. This year I do see a bit more of a talent advantage for the Bills and their coaching is still better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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