T&C Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I was only 9 but I remember the old B&W getting lit up by Cronkite and ladies crying in the neighborhood... a time I'll never forget. I didn't understand all of it at that time but I sure do now... and no one was ever convicted. https://www.history.com/news/kent-state-shootings-timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) I remember my 7th grade science teacher supported the soldiers. He was a crotchety old guy. He said if you compare mass x velocity squared of a bullet from a gun versus a brick being thrown, it was a fair fight. I didn’t buy it at the time, and the more I thought about it, the more I thought he was nuts. Edited May 4, 2020 by Gray Beard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 No Memorial service today due to Covid 19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 watched a documentary on this. This incident built up over a few days after the student protesters burned down a campus ROTC building the day before. A sobering reminder that the military is not employed in defense of the people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 And yet, all you see on social media today is Star Wars...unbelievable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Ned Flanders said: And yet, all you see on social media today is Star Wars...unbelievable... What would you expect? Fifty years ago was grampa and grandma's generation. The same a WW I would have been for kids in 1970. Young people always look forward, hardly ever back. Which is why history repeats, generation after generation... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, stuvian said: watched a documentary on this. This incident built up over a few days after the student protesters burned down a campus ROTC building the day before. A sobering reminder that the military is not employed in defense of the people Do you remember the name of the documentary... or is it on you tube? I'm a sucker for historical documentaries... for the most part. The history of disco wouldn't work here though. If you remember the name of it... it would be appreciated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, T&C said: Do you remember the name of the documentary... or is it on you tube? I'm a sucker for historical documentaries... for the most part. The history of disco wouldn't work here though. If you remember the name of it... it would be appreciated here. I seem to recall watching it on my tv so I want to say it was on Netflix but if I recall correctly, the program was not exclusively about that incident I'll surf around and look for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, T&C said: Do you remember the name of the documentary... or is it on you tube? I'm a sucker for historical documentaries... for the most part. The history of disco wouldn't work here though. If you remember the name of it... it would be appreciated here. The day the 60s died 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 One of the most influential days of my life. Protests that were non violent and flower power was more important than a friggen phrase. NOT ONE WEAPON WAS NEEDED OR USED. Today we watch a??'s think that protesting with an AR 15 and guns is cool. We cared about society as a whole. We wanted the world to be a better place. We did not think of individual freedoms. We tried to stop violence and war....Today they want to insight violence. Make love not war was not a just a slogan. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I remember. Condolences to all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, CowgirlsFan said: I remember. Condolences to all. Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I was 20 and a sophomore at Buff State on May 4, 1970. Kent State and Buff State were similar institutions -- inexpensive state schools with significant percentages of their students being in the first generation of their families to attend college. Neither school was a hot bed of student protest against the Vietnam war until the Nixon administration launched the ill-fated invasion of Cambodia when the US was already engaged in peace talks in Paris with North Vietnam. On May 6, 4 protesters at the UB were shot and wounded by Buffalo police. On May 8, state and local police killed 2 protesters and wounded 12 at Jackson State College, an historically black college located in Natchez, MS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: One of the most influential days of my life. Protests that were non violent and flower power was more important than a friggen phrase. NOT ONE WEAPON WAS NEEDED OR USED. Today we watch a??'s think that protesting with an AR 15 and guns is cool. We cared about society as a whole. We wanted the world to be a better place. We did not think of individual freedoms. We tried to stop violence and war....Today they want to insight violence. Make love not war was not a just a slogan. Absolutely true. The protest movement took a decidedly violent turn after the killings at Kent and Jackson State as various anti-war and civil rights groups splintered into a myriad of smaller groups, some of which advocated violence like bombings and killing the police. Thank you, Richard Nixon. May you roast in hell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, stuvian said: The day the 60s died Found it on you tube... thanks again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 One of the most influential days of my life. Protests that were non violent and flower power was more important than a friggen phrase. NOT ONE WEAPON WAS NEEDED OR USED. Today we watch a??'s think that protesting with an AR 15 and guns is cool. We cared about society as a whole. We wanted the world to be a better place. We did not think of individual freedoms. We tried to stop violence and war....Today they want to insight violence. Make love not war was not a just a slogan. Just saw Sweet Baby James SHOWER THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE WITH LOVE!! Come on people, love one another! (Youngbloods) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Lurker said: What would you expect? Fifty years ago was grampa and grandma's generation. The same a WW I would have been for kids in 1970. Young people always look forward, hardly ever back. Which is why history repeats, generation after generation... Also only 4 people killed? Isn't that a normal day in 'Merica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Absolutely true. The protest movement took a decidedly violent turn after the killings at Kent and Jackson State as various anti-war and civil rights groups splintered into a myriad of smaller groups, some of which advocated violence like bombings and killing the police. Thank you, Richard Nixon. May you roast in hell. As Hunter S Thompson said of Nixon after his death: "He was so crooked that they had to screw him into the ground" Here's a great book on the splinter groups of that period. Fantastic read. https://books.google.com/books/about/Days_of_Rage.html?id=QPUVBAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 For those interested, this is the 50th Anniversery commemorative video. It's a powerful and sobering reminder that history can--and likely wiil--repeat if its forgotten... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 A family friend took me and a couple early teen buddies on a trip in the early 70’s and we went to the campus. They had bullet marks in some sculptural artwork on campus. I’m glad they left that there, and it made an impression upon this young kid. Incomprehensible to this day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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