Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I feel thats a decent amount of coin for a guy with a combined 380 yards last season. He did have 6 receiving TDS but it came on just 230 yards receiving and 19 receptions. That doesn’t seem sustainable. I think it all adds up to him getting more targets next year. When he does play receiver is it usually in like the TE role? With that kind of money committed to him i wouldn't be surprised to see if reception total double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I think it all adds up to him getting more targets next year. When he does play receiver is it usually in like the TE role? With that kind of money committed to him i wouldn't be surprised to see if reception total double. I watch a ton of Saints football for fantasy reasons and because I'm a huge Brees fan (Purdue is my college team). I think even without additional targets, he's worth this contract. He opens up plays for first downs and TDs as a decoy when he's not targeted. In the redzone, he has to be specifically schemed for, giving defensive coordinators something else to worry about. You'll also see double coverage roll with him, both intentionally and unintentionally. So, you force the other team to spend time in the film room and practice to prepare for him, he opens up opportunities for other players, and running/catching/passing he's going to account for about 10 TDs a year (I think he'll get more passing opportunities this upcoming year). I think that's worth the contract he received. Bonus, if he continues to develop maybe he's the replacement for Brees. Maybe not, but they have 2 more years to figure it out with a guy who's not simply taking up a roster spot on the bench. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: I watch a ton of Saints football for fantasy reasons and because I'm a huge Brees fan (Purdue is my college team). I think even without additional targets, he's worth this contract. He opens up plays for first downs and TDs as a decoy when he's not targeted. In the redzone, he has to be specifically schemed for, giving defensive coordinators something else to worry about. You'll also see double coverage roll with him, both intentionally and unintentionally. So, you force the other team to spend time in the film room and practice to prepare for him, he opens up opportunities for other players, and running/catching/passing he's going to account for about 10 TDs a year (I think he'll get more passing opportunities this upcoming year). I think that's worth the contract he received. Bonus, if he continues to develop maybe he's the replacement for Brees. Maybe not, but they have 2 more years to figure it out with a guy who's not simply taking up a roster spot on the bench. Excellent write up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said: I watch a ton of Saints football for fantasy reasons and because I'm a huge Brees fan (Purdue is my college team). I think even without additional targets, he's worth this contract. He opens up plays for first downs and TDs as a decoy when he's not targeted. In the redzone, he has to be specifically schemed for, giving defensive coordinators something else to worry about. You'll also see double coverage roll with him, both intentionally and unintentionally. So, you force the other team to spend time in the film room and practice to prepare for him, he opens up opportunities for other players, and running/catching/passing he's going to account for about 10 TDs a year (I think he'll get more passing opportunities this upcoming year). I think that's worth the contract he received. Bonus, if he continues to develop maybe he's the replacement for Brees. Maybe not, but they have 2 more years to figure it out with a guy who's not simply taking up a roster spot on the bench. Bingo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I know it is hard to believe but Taysom may be the most popular player on the Saints amongst the fans. That’s not hyperbole either. There were A LOT of fans that wanted to let Brees walk and hand the keys to Taysom. It’s insanity. He is beloved. The Saints were never going to let him leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 W. T. F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I know it is hard to believe but Taysom may be the most popular player on the Saints amongst the fans. That’s not hyperbole either. There were A LOT of fans that wanted to let Brees walk and hand the keys to Taysom. It’s insanity. He is beloved. The Saints were never going to let him leave. He sounds like he’s beloved by the Aints as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 As of me posting this Taysom Hill was winning the poll. Keep in mind he’s 6-13 for 119 yards in the regular season in his career. He will be 30 at the start of the season. Say what you want about Jameis but he’s coming off of a 5,000 yard season and is a former number 1 overall pick. Taysom has a role for sure but this poll should illustrate how irrational Saints fans are when it comes to him. This would be like Bills fans wanting Brad Smith to start at QB. It is kind of crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 And people are going nuts over the Packers repeating history by taking their future replacement for their current long term franchise QB (and, like Rodgers, at a discount). Hill is a joke. He's not even a QB. 10 million for a few completely telegraphed plays a game? LOL 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: As of me posting this Taysom Hill was winning the poll. Keep in mind he’s 6-13 for 119 yards in the regular season in his career. He will be 30 at the start of the season. Say what you want about Jameis but he’s coming off of a 5,000 yard season and is a former number 1 overall pick. Taysom has a role for sure but this poll should illustrate how irrational Saints fans are when it comes to him. This would be like Bills fans wanting Brad Smith to start at QB. It is kind of crazy. Oh there were pages and pages about the magic of Brad Smith. You will trigger many here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) On 4/26/2020 at 9:06 PM, FireChans said: He’s honestly the most unique football player I can remember. Passing TD’s, rushing TD’s, recieving TD’s, punt blocks. He’s fascinating because he makes no sense. He has no position, which is usually the kiss of death at this level. But here he is contributing in unique ways. Some may call it luck, but luck can’t be sustained this long, imo. His 7 TD’s last year would have led the Bills in skill positions last year. He basically is the ultimate Swiss Army Knife. He contributes in ALL aspects of the game for them which is pretty unbelievable. On 4/27/2020 at 8:34 AM, DisplacedBillsFan said: I watch a ton of Saints football for fantasy reasons and because I'm a huge Brees fan (Purdue is my college team). I think even without additional targets, he's worth this contract. He opens up plays for first downs and TDs as a decoy when he's not targeted. In the redzone, he has to be specifically schemed for, giving defensive coordinators something else to worry about. You'll also see double coverage roll with him, both intentionally and unintentionally. So, you force the other team to spend time in the film room and practice to prepare for him, he opens up opportunities for other players, and running/catching/passing he's going to account for about 10 TDs a year (I think he'll get more passing opportunities this upcoming year). I think that's worth the contract he received. Bonus, if he continues to develop maybe he's the replacement for Brees. Maybe not, but they have 2 more years to figure it out with a guy who's not simply taking up a roster spot on the bench. When you're making teams spend time focusing on Hill instead of Michael Thomas, that is a major problem you are causing for a defense... Edited April 29, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) On 4/26/2020 at 6:34 PM, Bangarang said: I feel like he gets a lot of attention for no reason Its pretty odd to pay a gadget guy who isnt really great at anything. The fact the people considered him to be the next man up until Jameis Winston signed was absurd as well. Although 6 TDs on 19 catches is kinda crazy itself. (Karlos Williams?) Edited April 29, 2020 by Mr. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 brees 2yr/$50 hill 2yr/$21 winston 1yr/ $5 ?? thats alot of money tied up in QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: As of me posting this Taysom Hill was winning the poll. Keep in mind he’s 6-13 for 119 yards in the regular season in his career. He will be 30 at the start of the season. Say what you want about Jameis but he’s coming off of a 5,000 yard season and is a former number 1 overall pick. Taysom has a role for sure but this poll should illustrate how irrational Saints fans are when it comes to him. This would be like Bills fans wanting Brad Smith to start at QB. It is kind of crazy. Lotta drinking in that town, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lotta drinking in that town, no? It’s insanity!! People REALLY believe (and want) him to be the QB. There was a large group (maybe 20%) that wanted Brees to retire now and to give the job to him. He’s going to be 30 when the season starts!! For some perspective, Tyrod is 30. That just makes no sense to me. These heathens fell in love with a Mormon, go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 9:37 PM, MrEpsYtown said: I honestly don’t understand how they get this stuff under the cap This might actually be a move to create cap space. The Saints need a little more to sign their meager draft class. I’ll explain. Hill was in the last year of his deal. They can convert some salary to a signing bonus and extend his deal a couple seasons to spread that out. The large numbers might only be due to a pay-me-or-release-me structure. IOW he might not be getting any more money this season but the Saints will be paying him next season if they’re going to keep him. Or he hits free agency and can get what he can there. There’s probably a big roster bonus due or guarantees that kick in within a few days of next season starting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Hill is a great player - worth every penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Way too much money for the production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: As of me posting this Taysom Hill was winning the poll. Keep in mind he’s 6-13 for 119 yards in the regular season in his career. He will be 30 at the start of the season. Say what you want about Jameis but he’s coming off of a 5,000 yard season and is a former number 1 overall pick. Taysom has a role for sure but this poll should illustrate how irrational Saints fans are when it comes to him. This would be like Bills fans wanting Brad Smith to start at QB. It is kind of crazy. It’s funny, imagine if Tavon Austin was coming out of college now. The NFL sure has changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: As of me posting this Taysom Hill was winning the poll. Keep in mind he’s 6-13 for 119 yards in the regular season in his career. He will be 30 at the start of the season. Say what you want about Jameis but he’s coming off of a 5,000 yard season and is a former number 1 overall pick. Taysom has a role for sure but this poll should illustrate how irrational Saints fans are when it comes to him. This would be like Bills fans wanting Brad Smith to start at QB. It is kind of crazy. FWIW there was a poster on this board that said (in total seriousness) that Hill looked more like a franchise QB in 2019 than Josh Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 He is Tim Tebow on steroids. He will never be a full time qb. My man wasn’t even that good in college while he was older than most players. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/taysom-hill-1.html kinda blows my mind that he deserves this much money but he is fun. Wild that taking Brees off the field is a good playcall but what do I know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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