DCofNC Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/29/2020 at 9:54 AM, matter2003 said: IMO leg strength is not the most useful characteristic for a kicker. I have always had a booming leg going back to my youth soccer playing days. I have literally knocked bolts out of goal posts from my shot hitting the goal frame and dislocated a few kids fingers playing goalie growing up from them attempting to make saves on my shots. In my first practice on the soccer team in 6th grade the coach literally stopped practice after she saw a shot to try and find out who kicked the ball because it was a laser from about 30 yards out into the top corner of the goal (she was working with some other people on the team about something and looked up and saw it going in the net). The player was me. So my leg has always been exceptionally strong from a kicking perspective. I started playing rec football on a few flag and touch leagues as a kicker and spent considerable time working on technique. Leg strength will only get you so far as a kicker. I have hit 55 yard FG's and probably could hit from 60 based on leg strength. But I no longer have the leg "whip" speed due to heavy weight training and squats, etc. And that is actually what is needed more as a kicker than pure leg strength. How fast you can whip your leg will determine how far the ball goes far more than pure leg strength in most cases. Now ideally you want both, but if I had to choose one it would be speed of the leg whipping forward as you strike the ball as most important in determining how far the ball will go and not what most people would consider leg strength. Same as any sport where hitting a ball is the objective, the speed of the object hitting it ultimately trumps mass. Most people equate strength with being able to swing, kick, throw hard, when the reality is the stronger you have to be to generate speed, the more you have to "force" the velocity and often are far less accurate. Having quick twitch, whip, whatever you want to call it is the key, strength is really more about joint preservation/having stamina to continue to kick. Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Kershaw etc, lanky and get crazy whip, no forcing 100mph pitches. Jack Nicholas, Tiger, Rory, DJ, all crush a golf ball, not all the same size, not really that big either (Tiger had to deflate to get distance back). Looks at the best kickers, yes they tend to have built legs because or repetitive use, but they are rarely a bulky guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 But can the guy kick with no shoe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They talked with Bass about this on One Bills Live - that floored Tasker who talked about booten Tuten and the 1990 season. Bass is also coached by John Carney who played in SD for years and Tasker played with him in a few Pro Bowls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) On 4/29/2020 at 6:54 AM, matter2003 said: IMO leg strength is not the most useful characteristic for a kicker. I have always had a booming leg going back to my youth soccer playing days. I have literally knocked bolts out of goal posts from my shot hitting the goal frame and dislocated a few kids fingers playing goalie growing up from them attempting to make saves on my shots. In my first practice on the soccer team in 6th grade the coach literally stopped practice after she saw a shot to try and find out who kicked the ball because it was a laser from about 30 yards out into the top corner of the goal (she was working with some other people on the team about something and looked up and saw it going in the net). The player was me. So my leg has always been exceptionally strong from a kicking perspective. I started playing rec football on a few flag and touch leagues as a kicker and spent considerable time working on technique. Leg strength will only get you so far as a kicker. I have hit 55 yard FG's and probably could hit from 60 based on leg strength. But I no longer have the leg "whip" speed due to heavy weight training and squats, etc. And that is actually what is needed more as a kicker than pure leg strength. How fast you can whip your leg will determine how far the ball goes far more than pure leg strength in most cases. Now ideally you want both, but if I had to choose one it would be speed of the leg whipping forward as you strike the ball as most important in determining how far the ball will go and not what most people would consider leg strength. I am thinking we should have drafted you... that was a long, self bloviating, rant to say that speed trumps strength. Nice leg on you though... (I had "Glory Days" by Springsteen playing in my mind when I read this post... good song) Edited May 1, 2020 by WorstTEever81 added fun 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Think I’m going to give Tyler the nickname Smallie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 7 hours ago, WorstTEever81 said: I am thinking we should have drafted you... that was a long, self bloviating, rant to say that speed trumps strength. Nice leg on you though... (I had "Glory Days" by Springsteen playing in my mind when I read this post... good song) Haha, fair enough but the point is still valid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 8 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Think I’m going to give Tyler the nickname Smallie. How about "Big Mouth Billy"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 6:23 AM, WorstTEever81 said: "bass your opinion" Insert Beavis and Butthead gif here ------>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Interesting that he and Vedvik got together. Where's Bojo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Interesting that he and Vedvik got together. Where's Bojo? Reid Ferguson is also tagged in it too so I guess he's there snapping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Reid Ferguson is also tagged in it too so I guess he's there snapping it. Interesting. I guess Bojo's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 For some reason I have a bad feeling about this guy. Not sure what it is...just pure gut feeling that he isnt gonna be very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, StHustle said: For some reason I have a bad feeling about this guy. Not sure what it is...just pure gut feeling that he isnt gonna be very good. Take some pepto bismol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 As long as he can kick the game winning FG in SB 55 (...in Tampa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, StHustle said: For some reason I have a bad feeling about this guy. Not sure what it is...just pure gut feeling that he isnt gonna be very good. I think I'll go with Beane' s feeling on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, StHustle said: For some reason I have a bad feeling about this guy. Not sure what it is...just pure gut feeling that he isnt gonna be very good. Oh geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) This kid is going to end up the gem of the class Kickers age like fine wine up till a certain age... This kids snap on his leg and work ethic makes me think he will be a very good kicker for a long time Edited May 24, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This kid is going to end up the gem of the class Kickers age like fine wine up till a certain age... This kids snap on his leg and work ethic makes me think he will be a very good kicker for a long time So Hauska is gone by the end of camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: As long as he can kick the game winning FG in SB 55 (...in Tampa) You mean the late extra point to bump the lead up to 38. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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