WMDman Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Via himself, HUGE loss to the cowgirls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, WMDman said: Via himself, HUGE loss to the cowgirls If someone else tells you you're retired, aren't you fired? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Should we trade them Spencer Long for a pick? Kidding. Kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Yea huge blow. I remember when the drafted him having traded back people saying he was a reach and thinking "man I think he can play." But he has been one of the best in the NFL. Wish him luck with his ongoing health issues. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 He was a really, really good player. That line went from super elite to just upper tier quickly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, MiltonWaddams said: He was a really, really good player. That line went from super elite to just upper tier quickly. It went from having 3 elite guys (Smith, Martin and Frederick) and one very good player (Collins) to 1 elite guy (Martin), 1 very good player (Collins) and two guys playing less than 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Wow! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Should we trade them Spencer Long for a pick? Kidding. Kidding. I was thinking the same thing. Feliciano could be our backup center. Not sure what you could get. 5th rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It went from having 3 elite guys (Smith, Martin and Frederick) and one very good player (Collins) to 1 elite guy (Martin), 1 very good player (Collins) and two guys playing less than 100%. That 2016 Cowboys offensive line was unreal. At Center, RG, and LT they had All-Pro caliber players, they had a good and underrated LG in Ronald Leary. The only “weak leak” they had was Doug Free who was a veteran tackle that had played well for the Cowboys for a long time and was honestly decent even though he gave up 8 sacks. And they could have had Collins who got hurt that year and Leary took over and played really well not giving up a sack all year. They really plowed the road to take full advantage of Zeke (who was great his rookie year) and make things super easy for a rookie in Dak. I remember watching a game in 2016 where a team blitzed 6 and the Cowboys O-line and Zeke (who is an underrated blocker) gave him 10 seconds to throw against 5 on 4 coverage. Then the team only rushed 4 and they dropped 7 into coverage hoping to confuse Dak a bit and Dak had 12 seconds to throw. The Cowboys didn’t have many weapons that year either, they had Dez who was shot at that point, Jason Witten and Cole Beasley were their best receivers in terms of consistency, both of whom were solid but neither true number one guys at that point. But they just controlled every game with Zeke and that O-line. Now with Fredricks retirement and Tyron’s decline that unit is down to just Collins and Martin. I suspect they go O-line in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: That 2016 Cowboys offensive line was unreal. At Center, RG, and LT they had All-Pro caliber players, they had a good and underrated LG in Ronald Leary. The only “weak leak” they had was Doug Free who was a veteran tackle that had played well for the Cowboys for a long time and was honestly decent even though he gave up 8 sacks. And they could have had Collins who got hurt that year and Leary took over and played really well not giving up a sack all year. They really plowed the road to take full advantage of Zeke (who was great his rookie year) and make things super easy for a rookie in Dak. I remember watching a game in 2016 where a team blitzed 6 and the Cowboys O-line and Zeke (who is an underrated blocker) gave him 10 seconds to throw against 5 on 4 coverage. Then the team only rushed 4 and they dropped 7 into coverage hoping to confuse Dak a bit and Dak had 12 seconds to throw. The Cowboys didn’t have many weapons that year either, they had Dez who was shot at that point, Jason Witten and Cole Beasley were their best receivers in terms of consistency, both of whom were solid but neither true number one guys at that point. But they just controlled every game with Zeke and that O-line. Now with Fredricks retirement and Tyron’s decline that unit is down to just Collins and Martin. I suspect they go O-line in round 1. They could go oline if one of the top tackles remains. Otherwise I still think round 1 will be secondary. Round 2 is where I expect them to look at linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: They could go oline if one of the top tackles remains. Otherwise I still think round 1 will be secondary. Round 2 is where I expect them to look at linemen. It is dependent on what players are available as most draft picks are, but I think that O-line was a need before Fredricks retired (They were in need at LG and RT) I think they try and spend their best draft assets along that O-line if the value is there even at an OK level (basically don't reach too bad.) I wouldn't be shocked if they go RT round 1 and Center round 2. Unlike years past the Cowboys usually go for their needs with solid value or BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: It is dependent on what players are available as most draft picks are, but I think that O-line was a need before Fredricks retired (They were in need at LG and RT) I think they try and spend their best draft assets along that O-line if the value is there even at an OK level (basically don't reach too bad.) I wouldn't be shocked if they go RT round 1 and Center round 2. Unlike years past the Cowboys usually go for their needs with solid value or BPA. Collins is their RT. Don't see a need there and I still like Connor Williams who they took 2 years ago at guard. What I think they need is a long term answer at left tackle for Smith. There are 4 true first round grades on the oline for me. If any of those make it to #17 I expect them to be the pick. If not I think they will go in another direction but come back and take an interior guy in round 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Collins is their RT. Don't see a need there and I still like Connor Williams who they took 2 years ago at guard. What I think they need is a long term answer at left tackle for Smith. There are 4 true first round grades on the oline for me. If any of those make it to #17 I expect them to be the pick. If not I think they will go in another direction but come back and take an interior guy in round 2 or 3. I think they look at tackle prospect they feel can kick into guard in round 1. They need to get younger all around the O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Sucks. I really liked him despite really disliking the Cowboys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Does anyone know how this affects their salary cap? Sucks for him but he should be set for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Methinks I’ll be ragging on multiple Cowgirl fans at work tomorrow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Methinks I’ll be ragging on multiple Cowgirl fans at work tomorrow ? Via email hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 As someone who has had the chronic version of GBS for twenty years, what he did in coming back and playing at a Pro Bowl level is nothing short of a superhuman feat of will, mental toughness and an unbelievable level of physical conditioning. This disease spends every minute of every day robbing you of your muscular strength and it's the ocean and you are the sand castle on the beach. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Wow, that’s surprising guys got plenty left in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Wow, that’s surprising guys got plenty left in the tank. Been battling health problems from what I remember, HUGE loss Edited March 24, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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