stinky finger Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mickey said: Makes sense but resigning guys doesn't make you better, it keeps you from getting worse. It was the offense, not the defense that needed the most help and so far, Diggs is really the only change on offense. It will have to be a very good draft and our first pick isn't until late in the first round. There are some good backs that will be there and there are some very interesting WR's that will be around so hopefully, the offense will get what it needs. Rude awakening alert: We aint got a 1st rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mickey said: Makes sense but resigning guys doesn't make you better, it keeps you from getting worse. It was the offense, not the defense that needed the most help and so far, Diggs is really the only change on offense. It will have to be a very good draft and our first pick isn't until late in the first round. There are some good backs that will be there and there are some very interesting WR's that will be around so hopefully, the offense will get what it needs. The defense needed to be made whole after losing 2 big contributors. The offense needed a #1 receiver and a complimentary back to Motor. If they get depth at receiver, particularly a red zone big target, in the draft and a swing Offensive tackle, this club is the class of the division . A running back is a definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: This^ The right player, especially a RB, can be plug and play. As it stands with our WR stable, the chances of a very good WR prospect falls to us in round 2. Sprinkle this player into the offense with the present, experienced threats and the attention a D gives them would allow a young WR to flourish. I think Hughes might enjoy a spike in play because of the interior additions and another year under EOs belt. Hughes should sustain his level of play but I think that you have to factor in that it is possible some of these older players might decline when assessing 2019 vs. 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Hughes should sustain his level of play but I think that you have to factor in that it is possible some of these older players might decline when assessing 2019 vs. 2020. Fair point. I'm of the opinion that Hughes will be a major contributor off the edge this season......fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Much better. Not ever. Close. Great job Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: If Star gets his uniform dirty this year it will definitely be better. Didn't take long for the clueless comment on Star, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Hampton Josh fan said: The defense needed to be made whole after losing 2 big contributors. The offense needed a #1 receiver and a complimentary back to Motor. If they get depth at receiver, particularly a red zone big target, in the draft and a swing Offensive tackle, this club is the class of the division . A running back is a definite. I would add TE. Knox dropped a lot of passes last year and was very shaky at pass pro. Kroft's resume is a black hole for two years running. There is no better way to help a young QB out than a TE who gets open, reliably makes tough catches and hits on his blocks against blitz happy defenses. I think/hope they find a solid TE somewhere in the draft. It is a key position in the modern game, all the best teams have a standout at TE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think Butler for Phillips is likely a push. Jefferson for Shaq is an improvement. Addison is gravy. I will agree with your thoughts. The only thing I will add is, I think Addison is the most impactful of all the players. Big win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Mickey said: I am a little concerned that we have spent so much attention on the defense and, beyond Diggs, left the offense without badly needed reinforcements. The defense was solid last year, the offense, not so much. Where is the investment in the offense beyond Diggs? Yeah, we re-signed a guard and brought on a top notch deep threat and separation specialist at WR but the offense is still behind the defense talent-wise. I guess that will have to happen in the draft. I agree with you. I don't think we can rule out that we tried to make a push for some more offensive weapons, and were outbid. I think 4 yrs/$42,000 and the highest-paid TE is over the Bills budget if they were interested in Austin Hooper. I would have liked to see Jack Conklin here, too, but 3 yrs/$42M and 3rd highest RT is again, I think, over how the Bills saw his value. I'll wait and see, perhaps Beane isn't done yet but overall it looks as though the pattern of treating the O as the "red headed stepchild" where we do "just enough" may be continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Way better it also helps that we have one of the elite defensive minds in football as our head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think Butler for Phillips is likely a push. Jefferson for Shaq is an improvement. Addison is gravy. Positionally though, its really Addison for Shaq Jefferson for Phillips Butler being extra Either way, I dunno. I like the Addison signing but he is pretty old. I think Jefferson has the potential to step up and be the new "fan favorite" like JP was. Butler, I'm not sure with him. He's been a complete bust so far and has off-field issues, and I think we spent way too much on a guy like that at that position. I'll hope for the best, but right now it feels like a push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Mickey said: I would add TE. Knox dropped a lot of passes last year and was very shaky at pass pro. Kroft's resume is a black hole for two years running. There is no better way to help a young QB out than a TE who gets open, reliably makes tough catches and hits on his blocks against blitz happy defenses. I think/hope they find a solid TE somewhere in the draft. It is a key position in the modern game, all the best teams have a standout at TE. 1 hour ago, Mickey said: I would add TE. Knox dropped a lot of passes last year and was very shaky at pass pro. Kroft's resume is a black hole for two years running. There is no better way to help a young QB out than a TE who gets open, reliably makes tough catches and hits on his blocks against blitz happy defenses. I think/hope they find a solid TE somewhere in the draft. It is a key position in the modern game, all the best teams have a standout at TE. Knox dropped balls, missed blocks and did everything rookies do. He also stretches the field, had great catches with broken tackles and plays with attitude. Kroft will be better with time to get Dabol's and JA's trust along with being healthy. Remember that with 3 or 4 top receivers and 2 good backs, the TE position will get one one coverage with linebackers and safeties. The position will be better next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I think we’re pretty upgraded on the line, especially against the run. I can’t see anyone running on this group. That said the pass rush is still a little concerning but only if Addison falls off a cliff. If he’s a 7 sack or more guy at his advanced age we should be alright. Murphy wasn’t terrible as a pass rusher toward the end of the season. There’s a reason they haven’t cut him. Also I really wonder whether an improved interior will help Eddie Oliver get more pressure up the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I vote better on paper. Let’s see what they do. Phillips and Shaq both had good years and played well. Both were good in the locker room and represented themselves to the community very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I would say better at the moment but it just got older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree with you. I don't think we can rule out that we tried to make a push for some more offensive weapons, and were outbid. I think 4 yrs/$42,000 and the highest-paid TE is over the Bills budget if they were interested in Austin Hooper. I would have liked to see Jack Conklin here, too, but 3 yrs/$42M and 3rd highest RT is again, I think, over how the Bills saw his value. I'll wait and see, perhaps Beane isn't done yet but overall it looks as though the pattern of treating the O as the "red headed stepchild" where we do "just enough" may be continuing. I understand that it appears the volume of attention is clearly defense, but the headline was clearly offense. Diggs was a serious investment, and I think we’ll see OT and RB fairly early in the draft (mixed in with a DB fairly early, because you can never pass on a good DB!). Overpaying does not appear to be our style, and for that I am happy. Get some cheap offense in the draft. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Hampton Josh fan said: Knox dropped balls, missed blocks and did everything rookies do. He also stretches the field, had great catches with broken tackles and plays with attitude. Kroft will be better with time to get Dabol's and JA's trust along with being healthy. Remember that with 3 or 4 top receivers and 2 good backs, the TE position will get one one coverage with linebackers and safeties. The position will be better next season. As to the question, I think it's roughly the same. They have not added the premier edge that would push the defense over the top. As to Knox; Personally feel like he's gonna take a giant step next season. The guy had very little experience as a receiver, made some rookie mistakes turning upfield before catching the ball, etc. The missed block in the playoffs was brutal, but the import is exaggerated by the timing. He's gonna be a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 13 hours ago, whatdrought said: I think Butler for Phillips is likely a push. Jefferson for Shaq is an improvement. Addison is gravy. Wait until you see Butler. He's am absolute athletic freak. Under rated signing of the off season so far. Bills fans are going to love his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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