The China Problem

[Azalin]

3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

The only realistic option for dealing with China is to punish them by a major shift in America's attitude toward their products. We need to become self sufficient regarding critical important imports such as drugs and electronics (for security reasons). China will pull theirshit up to the time that pulling theirshit becomes worse than not doing it. 

 

Getting Walmart to buy from anyone but China would be a start. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

To your point: Politico today

 

 

Enemies of the people, shut them down.

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

Remember when the shamers told us this was a natural virus, not engineered? Pepperidge farm remembers.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Sounds like China decided to insult the EU, and accept no blame.

Coronavirus: China gets defensive during high-level EU event on fundraising and vaccine development
 

* In online event featuring world leaders, Beijing offers no additional financial pledges and does not promise to make any successful vaccine a common public good
* Chinese ambassador to the EU Zhang Ming, the lowest-level representative to participate, asked the world to stop the ‘blame games’
 

The European Union’s effort to raise new funds for developing and distributing Covid-19 vaccines has met with a cold shoulder from China, despite the bloc’s success in almost reaching its US$8 billion fundraising target.
 

Not only was China the country that sent the lowest-level official to the online event on Monday, it also made no new financial pledges, nor promised to make any successful vaccine a common public good, as several participating countries have called for.
 

Instead, Chinese ambassador to the EU Zhang Ming asked the world to stop the “blame games” over the coronavirus. He also outlined existing Chinese efforts, such as commercial sale of protective equipment and masks, to needy countries.
 

“China is a responsible member of the international community, despite daunting tasks of outbreak response at home,” Zhang said. “China is doing its best to help those countries in need.”
 

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Zhang added that “panic and blame games are not useful at all” amid growing international calls – including from European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen – to investigate China’s role in the pandemic.
 

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[plenzmd1]

Hers is the problem with China and how we move forward as I see it. Again, very anecdotal, but sure it is more prevelant than we think.

 

We are a consumer driven economy. China has 1.4BILLION consumers , we have 1/5th of that. So many consumer brands have startegic plans that include a big hunk of growth projections based on selling to those 1.4B. For instance , heard CEO of Starbucks other day...their plan is to open 1 new store in China every twelve hours for the next 10 YEARS!!!!! How do you replace that growth if we enter into a new cold war?

[4merper4mer]

32 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Hers is the problem with China and how we move forward as I see it. Again, very anecdotal, but sure it is more prevelant than we think.

 

We are a consumer driven economy. China has 1.4BILLION consumers , we have 1/5th of that. So many consumer brands have startegic plans that include a big hunk of growth projections based on selling to those 1.4B. For instance , heard CEO of Starbucks other day...their plan is to open 1 new store in China every twelve hours for the next 10 YEARS!!!!! How do you replace that growth if we enter into a new cold war?

Well it's definitely complicated but we can't kneel at the alter of China for the benefit of Starfrigginbuck's.

[RochesterRob]

30 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Hers is the problem with China and how we move forward as I see it. Again, very anecdotal, but sure it is more prevelant than we think.

 

We are a consumer driven economy. China has 1.4BILLION consumers , we have 1/5th of that. So many consumer brands have startegic plans that include a big hunk of growth projections based on selling to those 1.4B. For instance , heard CEO of Starbucks other day...their plan is to open 1 new store in China every twelve hours for the next 10 YEARS!!!!! How do you replace that growth if we enter into a new cold war?

  The risk has always been there in terms of China nationalizing anything we place over there.  Pandemic or not.  I suspect that had the pandemic not happened the Chinese would have made their move as they saw a decline in what was being moved in from the West.  Considering that the time would have come for foreign markets to have become mature meaning little future growth and perhaps a regression as others move to copy US companies.  At some point there will be a decline in the US in terms of shifting new technology to the market place as some new tech may not have a direct application to consumers.  Development of new technology may slow down period especially if a government comes to DC that fears the population having advanced technology.  I figured that such a day of recogning would be 100 years into the future but now it might just be only a couple of years out if that.  Watch ST:TNG Q Who for a similar type analogy as the figure Q pushes the time table up on the Federation's encounter with the Borg.  There are things pertaining to business and economics to be learned from the pandemic which will affect our future perhaps real soon.

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-spy-who-drove-her-dianne-feinstein-and-chinese-espionage

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

DISPATCHES FROM THE MANCHURIAN MEDIA: 

 

China gets top score as citizens rank their governments’ response to the coronavirus outbreak, CNBC “reports.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Koko78]

44 minutes ago, B-Man said:

DISPATCHES FROM THE MANCHURIAN MEDIA: 

 

China gets top score as citizens rank their governments’ response to the coronavirus outbreak, CNBC “reports.”

 

'On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, and anything lower getting you (and your family) shot, how would you rate the government's response to the American Pig-Dog Coronovirus outbreak?'

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Prickly Pete]

On 5/6/2020 at 9:37 AM, Deranged Rhino said:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-spy-who-drove-her-dianne-feinstein-and-chinese-espionage

 

 

(Nothing to see here)

 

What a name dropper....

[Hedge]

 

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Xi met with WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on January 21 to request that he withhold information about human-to-human transition and delay the declaration of a global pandemic, according to German magazine Der Spiegel.

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“We are still working to confirm this reporting. But if it turns out to be true, it’s further proof Director-General Tedros conspired with the Chinese Communist Party in their cover up and is not fit to lead the WHO,” Texas Republican and Chairman of the House China Task Force Michael McCaul told the Daily Caller.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

HMM: Report claims cellphone data suggests Wuhan virus lab shut down for two weeks in October.

A private analysis of cellphone location data purports to show that a high-security Wuhan laboratory studying coronaviruses shut down in October, three sources briefed on the matter told NBC News. U.S. spy agencies are reviewing the document, but intelligence analysts examined and couldn’t confirm a similar theory previously, two senior officials say.

 

The report — obtained by the London-based NBC News Verification Unit — says there was no cellphone activity in a high-security portion of the Wuhan Institute of Virology from Oct. 7 through Oct. 24, 2019, and that there may have been a “hazardous event” sometime between Oct. 6 and Oct. 11. . . .

 

One U.S. official who has seen the document said the data “looks really weak to me and some of the conclusions don’t make sense.”

Earlier, U.S. intelligence agencies received reports based on publicly available cellphone and satellite data suggesting there was a shutdown at the lab, two U.S. officials familiar with the matter say. But after examining overhead imagery and their own data, the spy agencies were unable to confirm any shutdown, and deemed the reports “inconclusive.”

 

Hmm. Like most stories on this virus, it’s hard to be sure what’s going on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

REMINDER: China has near-total control of the world’s antibiotic supply. Is America at risk as a result?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by B-Man

[Buffalo_Gal]

12 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

HMM: Report claims cellphone data suggests Wuhan virus lab shut down for two weeks in October.

A private analysis of cellphone location data purports to show that a high-security Wuhan laboratory studying coronaviruses shut down in October, three sources briefed on the matter told NBC News. U.S. spy agencies are reviewing the document, but intelligence analysts examined and couldn’t confirm a similar theory previously, two senior officials say.

 

The report — obtained by the London-based NBC News Verification Unit — says there was no cellphone activity in a high-security portion of the Wuhan Institute of Virology from Oct. 7 through Oct. 24, 2019, and that there may have been a “hazardous event” sometime between Oct. 6 and Oct. 11. . . .

 

One U.S. official who has seen the document said the data “looks really weak to me and some of the conclusions don’t make sense.”

Earlier, U.S. intelligence agencies received reports based on publicly available cellphone and satellite data suggesting there was a shutdown at the lab, two U.S. officials familiar with the matter say. But after examining overhead imagery and their own data, the spy agencies were unable to confirm any shutdown, and deemed the reports “inconclusive.”

 

Hmm. Like most stories on this virus, it’s hard to be sure what’s going on.

Tom Cotton said no cell phone, roads closed. (Public information)
 

To me, that would explain why the world leaders shut down as they feared it was a bio-weapon.

Watch the video. Cotton drops a lot.

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Tom Cotton said no cell phone, roads closed. (Public information)
 

To me, that would explain why the world leaders shut down as they feared it was a bio-weapon.

Watch the video. Cotton drops a lot.

 

Yeah he all but admitted China allowed the virus to spread because they knew their economy was going to take a hit, so they wanted to level the playing field

[Foxx]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

HMM: Report claims cellphone data suggests Wuhan virus lab shut down for two weeks in October.

A private analysis of cellphone location data purports to show that a high-security Wuhan laboratory studying coronaviruses shut down in October, three sources briefed on the matter told NBC News. U.S. spy agencies are reviewing the document, but intelligence analysts examined and couldn’t confirm a similar theory previously, two senior officials say.

 

The report — obtained by the London-based NBC News Verification Unit — says there was no cellphone activity in a high-security portion of the Wuhan Institute of Virology from Oct. 7 through Oct. 24, 2019, and that there may have been a “hazardous event” sometime between Oct. 6 and Oct. 11. . . .

 

One U.S. official who has seen the document said the data “looks really weak to me and some of the conclusions don’t make sense.”

Earlier, U.S. intelligence agencies received reports based on publicly available cellphone and satellite data suggesting there was a shutdown at the lab, two U.S. officials familiar with the matter say. But after examining overhead imagery and their own data, the spy agencies were unable to confirm any shutdown, and deemed the reports “inconclusive.”

 

Hmm. Like most stories on this virus, it’s hard to be sure what’s going on. ...

Fusion Ken??

hmmm ...