Jamie Mueller Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Big Curt said: The Bills have just gave up a boatload of draft picks for a WR. I admit he is an upgrade for what we currently have, however when a GM named Doug Whaley traded picks for Sammy Watkins, he never lived down that decision. Do you remember why Whaley made the trade? it was to bolster and support a young QB named EJ Manual. This trade was done for the current young QB Josh Allen. I hope this works out, if not, it will be a disaster. If it doesn't work, will the fans criticize Beane like they did Whaley? (1) the team wasn't nearly as ready to win then and (2) even Watkins might have worked out fine if he hadn't developed those chronic fracture problems with his feet. Sammy had turned out to be a pretty good receiver... even with all the physical challenges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I think it comes down to this 1: They needed a #1 WR 2: Drafted WRs are often busts or take multiple years to develop. Tes there are exceptions By taking an established guy they eliminate risk and Help Allen. The late round picks were unlikely to make the team anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Risky is trying to use a high draft choice to find a #1 caliber WR in the draft IMO. My hopes of drafting Tee Higgins took a hit, but I really like this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Yes, hardcore yes, you are ALONE in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Big Curt said: The Bills have just gave up a boatload of draft picks for a WR. I admit he is an upgrade for what we currently have, however when a GM named Doug Whaley traded picks for Sammy Watkins, he never lived down that decision. Do you remember why Whaley made the trade? it was to bolster and support a young QB named EJ Manual. This trade was done for the current young QB Josh Allen. I hope this works out, if not, it will be a disaster. If it doesn't work, will the fans criticize Beane like they did Whaley? EJ Manual.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It's a totally different situation, now you are giving cannon ammunition to a cannon, and before you put those ammunition to a 22 caliber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 My only concern with Diggs is that he will want out or be a problem in the locker room. I really get the feeling he wont buy into the culture. In terms of talent, id rather have him than those picks any day of the week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, VADC Bills said: Not sure why the silly comparisons. Both GM's over paid. I'm beginning to question if Beane can close a good deal and not over pay, except when dealing with ex-Panthers. I think our defense is in need of a 1st round pick which was dealt. Missing personnel will be replaced with ex-Panthers??? If Josh can step up he will have receivers that can get it done. We will need a TE and another RB for our offense to click. Yeah - I mean TT to Cleveland- clearly not a good deal. Teller & Bodine for the capital to make this trade - Beane was fleeced by NE and Cleveland. There is just so much fail in this troll job - I don’t even know where to start. So have fun and Buh Bye ?. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I don’t want to feed into the silly troll narrative. I think it’s been explained quite well already on this thread. If you can’t enjoy diggs coming here you may be a miserable person . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, VADC Bills said: Not sure why the silly comparisons. Both GM's over paid. Finally, someone with some truth. Edited March 17, 2020 by MOVALLEYRANDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said: Sammy Watkins, while an amazing talent in college, did not live up to his draft status. He was an unknown commodity. Diggs has been doing his thing and is proven on An NFL talent level. We gave up far less to get someone known to do what we need than to take a shot (even if everyone believed he was a sure thing, nothing is for certain until he plays at that level) Sammy’s first 2 years were pretty on par with Diggs last 2 and it was a High school offense with Tyrod throwing the ball. i like Diggs a lot but he is more of a really good 2/ 1B type of receiver. This deal for Hopkins is a homerun. But like everything, it comes down to Allen. If this helps Allen develop into a franchise qb, it’s an awesome deal. If Allen goes the way of EJ, JP, and Trent, we will second guess all those picks. but it’s a fine risk for a team that has a qb on a rookie year contract. They still need a big receiver though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 These two deals aren't even close in compensation. We swapped firsts and gave up a 1st the following year for Watkins and a 4th, who was unproven in the NFL at the time. Diggs is proven, we gave up far less in draft capital, and there is no NFL learning curve to go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lurker said: No. Think of Diggs as the Bills first round draft pick this year. The fifth and sixth rounders are camp fodder, as is the sixth rounder next year.... 4th next year, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Big Curt said: The Bills have just gave up a boatload of draft picks for a WR. I admit he is an upgrade for what we currently have, however when a GM named Doug Whaley traded picks for Sammy Watkins, he never lived down that decision. Do you remember why Whaley made the trade? it was to bolster and support a young QB named EJ Manual. This trade was done for the current young QB Josh Allen. I hope this works out, if not, it will be a disaster. If it doesn't work, will the fans criticize Beane like they did Whaley? Are we still clinging to this farce that we gave up a "boatload" for Diggs? That's the first falsehood. The rest is even more nonsense 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: I remember the arguments about whether Watkins cost 2 or 3 first round picks.... It was 6 IIRC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The only pick that matters is the first. The rest are lower picks that really don't translate to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Diggs is who Sammy was supposed to be. I can’t think of a less risky move than essentially drafting a really high end super athletic, dynamic run after catch stud WR, entering the prime of his career locked into a long term contract that’s proven he can play elite ball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, Big Curt said: The Bills have just gave up a boatload of draft picks for a WR. I admit he is an upgrade for what we currently have, however when a GM named Doug Whaley traded picks for Sammy Watkins, he never lived down that decision. Do you remember why Whaley made the trade? it was to bolster and support a young QB named EJ Manual. This trade was done for the current young QB Josh Allen. I hope this works out, if not, it will be a disaster. If it doesn't work, will the fans criticize Beane like they did Whaley? Sure anything coukd happen..... the trade for Watkins effectly gave up a 1st and a few 3rd day picks this trade you gave up a 1st and third day picks both players have 4 years of team control. a factor...in this draft was their certain they could get the type of WR they need at 22. Receivers drafted there rarely have an impact as a rookie outside of some one dimensional aspect of their game like a deep threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, H2o said: These two deals aren't even close in compensation. We swapped firsts and gave up a 1st the following year for Watkins and a 4th, who was unproven in the NFL at the time. Diggs is proven, we gave up far less in draft capital, and there is no NFL learning curve to go through. People seem to forget that we are picking in the 20's this year. Far different than a top 10 pick. Not even in the same realm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Big difference is that Diggs is already an established player, he cost 1 first rounder rather than 2, and we were likely to go WR in the first round and we hope whoever we may have taken in the first round is as good as Diggs one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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