Internally there’s some love for Tee Higgins

[DCOrange]

The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score". The 4.45-4.50 40 time is smack dab where NFL teams expected him to test and well above what most of the #DraftTwitter world expected. I imagine his speed score will be somewhere around the 90th-95th percentile.

Edited March 12, 2020 by DCOrange

[whatdrought]

5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score". The 4.45-4.50 40 time is smack dab where NFL teams expected him to test and well above what most of the #DraftTwitter world expected. I imagine his speed score will be somewhere around the 90th-95th percentile.

 

Except that his only speed time is on the home field, which usually adds a grain of salt. 

[DCOrange]

4 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Except that his only speed time is on the home field, which usually adds a grain of salt. 

For sure. If you add .06 to his time (which I think is generally the average that Pro Day times are off by relative to Combine times), I think you likely end up somewhere around the upper 80s to lower 90s still. Depends on what his "official" Pro Day time is announced at. Michael Pittman at roughly the same size ran 4.52 and is 93rd percentile.

Edited March 12, 2020 by DCOrange

[Lurker]

23 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

31 inch vert is pedestrian, I know he is tall but dang

 

Yeah, that's very far down the WR list.   Not much explosion in Tee's legs, apparently...

 

Rk	Year	Player	Pos	Age	AV	School	College	Height	Wt	40YD	Vertical ▼	BenchReps	Broad Jump	3Cone	Shuttle	Drafted (tm/rnd/yr)
1	2020	Donovan Peoples-Jones	WR			Michigan	College Stats	6-2	212	4.48	44.5		139
2	2020	Henry Ruggs III	WR			Alabama	College Stats	5-11	188	4.27	42.0		131
3	2020	Jalen Reagor	WR			TCU	College Stats	5-11	206	4.47	42.0	17	138	7.31	4.46
4	2020	Chase Claypool	WR			Notre Dame	College Stats	6-4	238	4.42	40.5	19	126
5	2020	Chris Finke	WR			Notre Dame	College Stats	5-9	186	4.57	40.0	7
6	2020	Brandon Aiyuk	WR			Arizona State	College Stats	6-0	205	4.50	40.0	11	128
7	2020	Tyrie Cleveland	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-2	209	4.46	39.5	13	126
8	2020	Denzel Mims	WR			Baylor	College Stats	6-3	207	4.38	38.5	16	131	6.66	4.43
9	2020	John Hightower	WR			Boise St.	College Stats	6-1	189	4.43	38.5		122	7.07	4.21
10	2020	Quintez Cephus	WR			Wisconsin	College Stats	6-1	202	4.73	38.5	23	124	7.20	4.33
11	2020	Joe Reed	WR			Virginia	College Stats	6-0	224	4.47	38.0	21	123
12	2020	Marquez Callaway	WR			Tennessee	College Stats	6-1	205	4.55	38.0		126
13	2020	K.J. Osborn	WR			Miami	College Stats	5-11	203	4.48	37.5	18	123	7.00	4.35
14	2020	Justin Jefferson	WR			LSU	College Stats	6-1	202	4.43	37.5		126
15	2020	Darnell Mooney	WR			Tulane	College Stats	5-10	176	4.38	37.0	9	124
16	2020	Jeff Thomas	WR			Miami	College Stats	5-9	170	4.45	36.5		125
17	2020	Freddie Swain	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-0	197	4.46	36.5	16	124	7.05	4.26
18	2020	Michael Pittman	WR			USC	College Stats	6-4	223	4.52	36.5	13	121	6.96	4.14
19	2020	Isaiah Hodgins	WR			Oregon St.	College Stats	6-4	210	4.61	36.5	9	124	7.01	4.12
20	2020	Quez Watkins	WR			Southern Miss	College Stats	6-0	185	4.35	36.5		125	7.28	4.36
21	2020	Malcolm Perry	WR			Navy	College Stats	5-9	186	4.63	36.0	10	122	7.12	4.31
22	2020	Dezmon Patmon	WR			Washington St.	College Stats	6-4	225	4.48	36.0	15	132	7.28	4.38
23	2020	Trishton Jackson	WR			Syracuse	College Stats	6-1	197	4.50	36.0		117
24	2020	Antonio Gandy-Golden	WR			Liberty	College Stats	6-4	223	4.60	36.0	22	127	7.33	4.55
25	2020	Omar Bayless	WR			Arkansas State	College Stats	6-1	212	4.62	36.0	11	123	7.35	4.50
26	2020	Isaiah Coulter	WR			Rhode Island		6-2	198	4.45	36.0		121	7.28	4.62
27	2020	Cody White	WR			Michigan St.	College Stats	6-3	217	4.66	35.5		120	7.19	4.52
28	2020	Kendrick Rogers	WR			Texas A&M	College Stats	6-4	208	4.51	35.5	17	124	7.13	4.48
29	2020	Devin Duvernay	WR			Texas	College Stats	5-10	200	4.39	35.5		123	7.13	4.20
30	2020	Quartney Davis	WR			Texas A&M	College Stats	6-1	201	4.54	35.5
31	2020	Darrell Stewart	WR			Michigan St.	College Stats	6-0	212		35.0	15	117
32	2020	Jerry Jeudy	WR			Alabama	College Stats	6-1	193	4.45	35.0		120		4.53
33	2020	Antonio Gibson	WR			Memphis	College Stats	6-0	228	4.39	35.0	16	118
34	2020	Gabriel Davis	WR			UCF	College Stats	6-2	216	4.54	35.0	14	124	7.08	4.59
35	2020	Ben Victor	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-4	198	4.60	35.0	9	128	7.10
36	2020	James Proche	WR			SMU	College Stats	5-11	201		34.5	20		7.27	4.40
37	2020	CeeDee Lamb	WR			Oklahoma	College Stats	6-2	198	4.50	34.5	11	124
38	2020	Stephen Guidry	WR			Mississippi St.	College Stats	6-3	201	4.47	34.0		125	7.31	4.46
39	2020	Aaron Fuller	WR			Washington	College Stats	5-11	188	4.59	34.0		118	7.14
40	2020	Tony Brown	WR			Colorado	College Stats	6-1	198	4.65	33.5	14	119	7.21	4.27
41	2020	Juwan Johnson	WR			Oregon	College Stats	6-4	230	4.58	33.0	14	124	6.94	4.37
42	2020	K.J. Hill	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-0	196	4.60	32.5	17	114
43	2020	Kalija Lipscomb	WR			Vanderbilt	College Stats	6-0	207	4.57	32.0	16	127
44	2020	Austin Mack	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-1	208	4.59	31.5		117		4.42
45	2020	Jauan Jennings	WR			Tennessee	College Stats	6-3	215	4.72	29.0		119
46	2020	Aaron Parker	WR			Rhode Island		6-2	209	4.57	26.5	12	112	6.94	4.23
47	2020	Laviska Shenault Jr.	WR			Colorado	College Stats	6-1	227	4.58		17
48	2020	Tyler Johnson	WR			Minnesota	College Stats	6-1	206
49	2020	Collin Johnson	WR			Texas	College Stats	6-6	222			17
50	2020	Van Jefferson	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-1	200
51	2020	Tee Higgins	WR			Clemson	College Stats	6-4	216
52	2020	KJ Hamler	WR			Penn St.	College Stats	5-9	178			15
53	2020	Bryan Edwards	WR			South Carolina	College Stats	6-3	212
54	2020	Lawrence Cager	WR			Georgia	College Stats	6-5	220
55	2020	Lynn Bowden	WR			Kentucky	College Stats	5-11	204			13

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score".

 

Rk	Year	Player	Pos	Age	AV	School	College	Height	Wt	40YD	Vertical	BenchReps	Broad Jump ▼	3Cone	Shuttle	Drafted (tm/rnd/yr)
1	2020	Donovan Peoples-Jones	WR			Michigan	College Stats	6-2	212	4.48	44.5		139
2	2020	Jalen Reagor	WR			TCU	College Stats	5-11	206	4.47	42.0	17	138	7.31	4.46
3	2020	Dezmon Patmon	WR			Washington St.	College Stats	6-4	225	4.48	36.0	15	132	7.28	4.38
4	2020	Henry Ruggs III	WR			Alabama	College Stats	5-11	188	4.27	42.0		131
5	2020	Denzel Mims	WR			Baylor	College Stats	6-3	207	4.38	38.5	16	131	6.66	4.43
6	2020	Brandon Aiyuk	WR			Arizona State	College Stats	6-0	205	4.50	40.0	11	128
7	2020	Ben Victor	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-4	198	4.60	35.0	9	128	7.10
8	2020	Antonio Gandy-Golden	WR			Liberty	College Stats	6-4	223	4.60	36.0	22	127	7.33	4.55
9	2020	Kalija Lipscomb	WR			Vanderbilt	College Stats	6-0	207	4.57	32.0	16	127
10	2020	Chase Claypool	WR			Notre Dame	College Stats	6-4	238	4.42	40.5	19	126
11	2020	Tyrie Cleveland	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-2	209	4.46	39.5	13	126
12	2020	Marquez Callaway	WR			Tennessee	College Stats	6-1	205	4.55	38.0		126
13	2020	Justin Jefferson	WR			LSU	College Stats	6-1	202	4.43	37.5		126
14	2020	Jeff Thomas	WR			Miami	College Stats	5-9	170	4.45	36.5		125
15	2020	Quez Watkins	WR			Southern Miss	College Stats	6-0	185	4.35	36.5		125	7.28	4.36
16	2020	Stephen Guidry	WR			Mississippi St.	College Stats	6-3	201	4.47	34.0		125	7.31	4.46
17	2020	Quintez Cephus	WR			Wisconsin	College Stats	6-1	202	4.73	38.5	23	124	7.20	4.33
18	2020	Darnell Mooney	WR			Tulane	College Stats	5-10	176	4.38	37.0	9	124
19	2020	Freddie Swain	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-0	197	4.46	36.5	16	124	7.05	4.26
20	2020	Isaiah Hodgins	WR			Oregon St.	College Stats	6-4	210	4.61	36.5	9	124	7.01	4.12
21	2020	Kendrick Rogers	WR			Texas A&M	College Stats	6-4	208	4.51	35.5	17	124	7.13	4.48
22	2020	Gabriel Davis	WR			UCF	College Stats	6-2	216	4.54	35.0	14	124	7.08	4.59
23	2020	CeeDee Lamb	WR			Oklahoma	College Stats	6-2	198	4.50	34.5	11	124
24	2020	Juwan Johnson	WR			Oregon	College Stats	6-4	230	4.58	33.0	14	124	6.94	4.37
25	2020	Joe Reed	WR			Virginia	College Stats	6-0	224	4.47	38.0	21	123
26	2020	K.J. Osborn	WR			Miami	College Stats	5-11	203	4.48	37.5	18	123	7.00	4.35
27	2020	Omar Bayless	WR			Arkansas State	College Stats	6-1	212	4.62	36.0	11	123	7.35	4.50
28	2020	Devin Duvernay	WR			Texas	College Stats	5-10	200	4.39	35.5		123	7.13	4.20
29	2020	John Hightower	WR			Boise St.	College Stats	6-1	189	4.43	38.5		122	7.07	4.21
30	2020	Malcolm Perry	WR			Navy	College Stats	5-9	186	4.63	36.0	10	122	7.12	4.31
31	2020	Michael Pittman	WR			USC	College Stats	6-4	223	4.52	36.5	13	121	6.96	4.14
32	2020	Isaiah Coulter	WR			Rhode Island		6-2	198	4.45	36.0		121	7.28	4.62
33	2020	Cody White	WR			Michigan St.	College Stats	6-3	217	4.66	35.5		120	7.19	4.52
34	2020	Jerry Jeudy	WR			Alabama	College Stats	6-1	193	4.45	35.0		120		4.53
35	2020	Tony Brown	WR			Colorado	College Stats	6-1	198	4.65	33.5	14	119	7.21	4.27
36	2020	Jauan Jennings	WR			Tennessee	College Stats	6-3	215	4.72	29.0		119
37	2020	Antonio Gibson	WR			Memphis	College Stats	6-0	228	4.39	35.0	16	118
38	2020	Aaron Fuller	WR			Washington	College Stats	5-11	188	4.59	34.0		118	7.14
39	2020	Trishton Jackson	WR			Syracuse	College Stats	6-1	197	4.50	36.0		117
40	2020	Darrell Stewart	WR			Michigan St.	College Stats	6-0	212		35.0	15	117
41	2020	Austin Mack	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-1	208	4.59	31.5		117		4.42
42	2020	K.J. Hill	WR			Ohio St.	College Stats	6-0	196	4.60	32.5	17	114
43	2020	Aaron Parker	WR			Rhode Island		6-2	209	4.57	26.5	12	112	6.94	4.23
44	2020	Chris Finke	WR			Notre Dame	College Stats	5-9	186	4.57	40.0	7
45	2020	Quartney Davis	WR			Texas A&M	College Stats	6-1	201	4.54	35.5
46	2020	James Proche	WR			SMU	College Stats	5-11	201		34.5	20		7.27	4.40
47	2020	Laviska Shenault Jr.	WR			Colorado	College Stats	6-1	227	4.58		17
48	2020	Tyler Johnson	WR			Minnesota	College Stats	6-1	206
49	2020	Collin Johnson	WR			Texas	College Stats	6-6	222			17
50	2020	Van Jefferson	WR			Florida	College Stats	6-1	200
51	2020	Tee Higgins	WR			Clemson	College Stats	6-4	216
52	2020	KJ Hamler	WR			Penn St.	College Stats	5-9	178			15
53	2020	Bryan Edwards	WR			South Carolina	College Stats	6-3	212
54	2020	Lawrence Cager	WR			Georgia	College Stats	6-5	220
55	2020	Lynn Bowden	WR			Kentucky	College Stats	5-11	204			13

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by Lurker

[BillsFan2313]

https://twitter.com/Marcel_LJ/status/1238104445768081408?s=20

[BillsFan17]

Higgins at 22 looks more and more likely, lol.

[Lurker]

6 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

Higgins at 22 looks more and more likely, lol.

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

[DCOrange]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

There was...he slipped during it though so it's likely going to be a terrible time if he doesn't re-do it, but ultimately teams won't read much into it in that case.

[SWATeam]

5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

There was...he slipped during it though so it's likely going to be a terrible time if he doesn't re-do it, but ultimately teams won't read much into it in that case.

DK slipped too last year...

[Hebert19]

4.43 is same time as sammy too.  Too many similarities.  Pass.  Ha

[BillsFan17]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

I have zero questions about Higgins ability to go pluck a ball.

 

Just now, Hebert19 said:

4.43 is same time as sammy too.  Too many similarities.  Pass.  Ha

They are two vastly different players.

[Lurker]

13 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

DK slipped too last year...

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828513-dk-metcalf-aj-browns-highlights-from-strong-showing-at-ole-miss-pro-day

 

His do-over was much better...

[Hebert19]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

I have zero questions about Higgins ability to go pluck a ball.

 

They are two vastly different players.

I know.  Was sarcasm. 

[BringBackOrton]

Pass on this dude.

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

PFF likes him, enough said. 
 

they also published his 40 time as 4.43 even though nobody else had it above a 4.5 

[LabattBlue]

Higgins... ???. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

PFF likes him, enough said. 
 

they also published his 40 time as 4.43 even though nobody else had it above a 4.5 

He ran twice 

[whatdrought]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

He ran twice 

Right, but It seemed like people thought both of his runs were over 4.5?

[Reed83HOF]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

PFF likes him, enough said. 
 

they also published his 40 time as 4.43 even though nobody else had it above a 4.5 

So PFF is good now?

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Right, but It seemed like people thought both of his runs were over 4.5?

? Didn’t see that 

 

edit - to be clear anything under a 4.6 was good for him anyway 

Edited March 13, 2020 by YoloinOhio