Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, driddles said: LDS asks church members to wear masks Israel announces antibody that neutralizes virus There are several posts in the Facts thread about development of antibody biotherapeutics that neutralize the virus. The problem is moving from development, to clinical trials and proving they are safe and effective in Vivo There are a number of drug candidate antibodies in that boat in this country, in China, and in Europe EDIT: here’s the most recent monoclonal antibody therapeutics post from the Covid Facts thread Free Bonus link to Derek Lowe update from early June Aside: the Yucatán Times, New You Can Rely On? ?♂️ Quote 30 year old dies after attending Coronavirus party Mutation in Arizona Coronavirus may make it more infectious It’s perhaps a bit misleading to say “mutation in Arizona Coronavirus”. The mutation was identified back in April, and the virus carrying it has become the dominant strain in Europe and in European derived infections (much of the US). I’m probably overdue to update this in the Facts thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 What TF is wrong with these people? Seriously, harassing underpaid and overexposed grocery store workers with their nasty maskless snotulum producing viz, is that really the best thing these guys and gals got going on in their lives? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Quote A doctor from Methodist Hospital in San Antonio said a young man died after attending a COVID-19 party. “One of the things that was heart wrenching that he said to his nurse was, you know, I think I made a mistake. And this young man went to a COVID party,” said Dr. Jane Appleby, Chief Medical Officer at Methodist Hospital. Appleby said the man who died was 30 years old. “He didn’t really believe. He thought the disease was a hoax. He thought he was young and he was invincible and wouldn’t get affected by the disease,” Dr. Appleby said. She said some young patients don’t realize how sick they really are. “People will come in initially and they don’t look so bad. They don’t look really sick, but when you check their oxygen levels and you check their lab tests, they’re really sicker than they appear on the surface,” Appleby said. “My plea to our community and especially all of our young folks in the community is to take it seriously. Wear your mask,” Appleby said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 Link to Facts thread post with interview with one of the top epidemiologists in the world, Larry Brilliant. He goes into detail about how he thinks we can deal with the resurgence. I think it's noteworthy that "re-impose stay at home order/mass closures" is NOT one of his suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 Don't believe everything you read on Facebook. But apparently, this is a real dude and his real Facebook feed in fact had these posts. And sadly for his family and friends, he is no longer with us.https://thecourierdaily.com/richard-rose-covid-19-port-clinton-ohio-donald/22423/?fbclid=IwAR1A9NGiAsbbt4gJblVn0Vngz1FhhaChrdiUPa0yUzHzZ_g2BOL2Bl7VJt8 Army vet. Survived tours in Iraq and Afghanistan ? I would just like to say it's possible that he was hypoxic before he began to experience breathing distress If you can afford it, consider buying a pulse oximeter for your family. (Cost used to be $10, now more like $30). One learning about covid-19 is that people who are actually so low in blood oxygen that they're damaging their internal organs, do not feel short of breath. Blood clotting problems causing organ damage can also be a silent issue. A tele-health appointment where you show your pulse oximeter results and get an order to obtain a test called "d-dimer" (to check for clotting) could demonstrate the need for oxygen and for anticoagulant therapy, both of which are available on an outpatient basis if hospitals in your area are too full. Someone who is short of breath should absolutely be actively seeking medical help, at least to the point of evaluating blood oxygen levels and explaining "prone position" and other home therapies. Don't be "fobbed off" with an inhaler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 hours ago, driddles said: 30 year old dies after attending Coronavirus party Thank you Darwin. Quote “He didn’t really believe. He thought the disease was a hoax. He thought he was young and he was invincible and wouldn’t get affected by the disease,” Dr. Appleby said. This story may save some other idiots. But it will not be "FreedomGirl" Quote Such a vague article. The article doesn’t state how long ago he attended this party and how long he had symptoms. Also, did he have any underlying health conditions like diabetes or heart issues? Nevertheless, very sad situation. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Days since last peak of new covid-19 cases (7 Day Average) From DataIsBeautiful on Reddit Edited July 12, 2020 by driddles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Oh my God - what are they doing? Florida sets new record with 15,299 new cases on Sunday "A month ago fewer than 5 percent of tests returned positive results, while over the past week, more than 19 percent of tests were positive. " Edited July 12, 2020 by driddles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 20 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Link to Facts thread post with interview with one of the top epidemiologists in the world, Larry Brilliant. He goes into detail about how he thinks we can deal with the resurgence. I think it's noteworthy that "re-impose stay at home order/mass closures" is NOT one of his suggestions. Brilliant! Seriously a very good interview. Thanks for linking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/news/mask-resistance-during-pandemic-isnt-115358176.html Not super funny and no real relevance to breaking news Keep Church windows open. Open Face Sneezers to be arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mask-resistance-during-pandemic-isnt-115358176.html Not super funny and no real relevance to breaking news Keep Church windows open. Open Face Sneezers to be arrested. Avoid worry, fear, and fatigue. Good luck with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 CDC's 'best estimate' is 40 percent COVID-19 infections are asymptomatic A person with COVID-19 is still 'likely to infect' 2.5 other people By Chris Ciaccia | Fox News In updated guidance, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said its "best estimate" is that 40 percent of people infected with COVID-19 are asymptomatic. In the update, posted July 10, the CDC said the basic reproduction number or the number of people one person "is likely to infect" is 2.5, and the infectiousness level of asymptomatic people is 75 percent, relative to symptomatic patients. The government agency added a new part to its report, an "Infection Fatality Ratio," which "takes into account both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases and may therefore be a more directly measurable parameter for disease severity for COVID-19." The new metric states that 0.65 percent of those with COVID-19 are estimated to die. In late May, the CDC estimated that 35 percent of patients could be asymptomatic, Fox News previously reported. In April, the CDC estimated some 25 percent of cases could be asymptomatic. Asymptomatic COVID-19 patients are of great concern to public health officials and lawmakers due to their ability to spread the virus without knowing they're sick themselves. In June, an official from the World Health Organization said that spread from asymptomatic patients appeared to be "very rare." The comments were walked back a few days later following criticism from many in the scientific community, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, who said the statement was "not correct." https://www.foxnews.com/science/cdc-best-estimate-40-percent-covid-19-infections-asymptomatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/mask-resistance-during-pandemic-isnt-115358176.html Not super funny and no real relevance to breaking news Keep Church windows open. Open Face Sneezers to be arrested. One thing that's interesting is the references to inoculation and to vaccines. I hadn't remembered this but they did, indeed, develop a vaccine during the influenza epidemic. Unfortunately for vaccine effectiveness, a bacteria had been isolated from influenza patients, and was believed at the time to be the cause of the 'flu Since it wasn't eliciting an immune response to the actual cause (influenza virus)....it didn't work ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 It is "facts" but not the type of facts usually posted in other thread Texas Supreme Court Rules State Republican Party Can’t Force Hot-Spot Houston to Host In-Person Convention https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-supreme-court-rules-state-republican-party-cant-force-hot-spot-houston-to-host-in-person-convention Quote The court ruled that though the party has the right to hold a convention, “those rights do not allow it to simply commandeer use of the Center.” Party officials have said they have plans to host a convention virtually. Houston has become an epicenter of the pandemic, with local officials demanding Gov. Greg Abbott allow another lockdown in the region. I will not give my opinion if more good or bad will come out of that ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 curious of your take on this study, hap. https://academic.oup.com/ehjcimaging/article/doi/10.1093/ehjci/jeaa178/5859292?searchresult=1 ‘Global evaluation of echocardiography in patients with COVID-19‘ Quote Methods and results In a prospective international survey, we captured echocardiography findings in patients with presumed or confirmed COVID-19 between 3 and 20 April 2020. Patient characteristics, indications, findings, and impact of echocardiography on management were recorded. Multivariable logistic regression identified predictors of echocardiographic abnormalities. A total of 1216 patients [62 (52–71) years, 70% male] from 69 countries across six continents were included. Overall, 667 (55%) patients had an abnormal echocardiogram. Left and right ventricular abnormalities were reported in 479 (39%) and 397 (33%) patients, respectively, with evidence of new myocardial infarction in 36 (3%), myocarditis in 35 (3%), and takotsubo cardiomyopathy in 19 (2%). Severe cardiac disease (severe ventricular dysfunction or tamponade) was observed in 182 (15%) patients. In those without pre-existing cardiac disease (n = 901), the echocardiogram was abnormal in 46%, and 13% had severe disease. Independent predictors of left and right ventricular abnormalities were distinct, including elevated natriuretic peptides [adjusted odds ratio (OR) 2.96, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.75–5.05) and cardiac troponin (OR 1.69, 95% CI 1.13–2.53) for the former, and severity of COVID-19 symptoms (OR 3.19, 95% CI 1.73–6.10) for the latter. Echocardiography changed management in 33% of patients. Quote Conclusion In this global survey, cardiac abnormalities were observed in half of all COVID-19 patients undergoing echocardiography. Abnormalities were often unheralded or severe, and imaging changed management in one-third of patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 We're wasting time talking about herd immunity Antibodies to the virus would increase sharply after infection and peak after about two weeks. But then their presence would decline, generally disappearing entirely somewhere between four months and one year. In one case, a person was reinfected with the same strain of coronavirus after just four weeks from first infection. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/opinions/herd-immunity-covid-19-uncomfortable-reality-haseltine/index.html Would a vaccine also lose effect after a short while if the above article were true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) @Hapless Bills Fan, you can remove this post if you want. I wasn’t sure if I should post it but felt it was important enough to post. I have never seen ex-CDC Directors step forward like this before. I think everyone should read their message. Edited July 14, 2020 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Hapless, you can remove this post if you want. I wasn’t sure if I should post it but felt it was important enough to post. I have never seen ex-CDC Directors step forward like this before. I think everyone should read their message. Two words: banana republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Canada to extend border closure to Aug 21st. If they follow the standard pattern they will also extend to Sept 21st mandatory quarantine for returning Canadians. As a longtime season ticket holder from Canada I have to accept that fans or no fans, I won't be at the home opener for the first time in 17 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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