John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Who does he replace we are so loaded at iol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I mean we still have Ty and then look at the state of line play across the league. It's terrible, worst in league history RT is not a plug and play position unless you are top end talent. Most are still developing at 27, some develop till 30.. it's a slow developing position That's why lots of teams use waiver wire and FAs because they don't have patience to develop them properly You can work on quickness and technique and he actually showed great quickness in college Dion Dawkins is not that great either and nobody says anything because he works hard and wants to improve.. he is upgradable but it's hard to find good Tackles Ford has upside at the Tackle spot. Kicking him inside would be a waste after 16 games As for Ruiz I don't expect him to be the pick but if the high end skill guys are gone he is a great prospect and a guy I personally would consider at the tail end. Historically where the great interior lineman go. He is a very good athlete, scheme fit, versatile and great at pulling which we do a good amount he is gonna blow up the combine I believe and his tape + measurables will definitely have someone take him sooner than later imo Just because the state of OL around the league is poor doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and surround Josh allen with good OLmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Who does he replace we are so loaded at iol Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Just because the state of OL around the league is poor doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and surround Josh allen with good OLmen Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is Just Re-sign Spain then and pick a WR or DE at Pick 22.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Span who I believe is UFA. He can also take over for Morse in a few Again I'm just spitballng some out the box ideas . Not the status quo Exactly which is why I would consider taking Ruiz who is a better guard prospect than Ford imo Ford is not a lost cause not at all. He was one of the top rookie tackles last year, give him this year to see how rapid or slow his progression is I’d rather try ford inside and get an entirely new RT. I can’t count on nsekhe and I hope Beane doesn’t count on the same 1-2 combo as last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Just Re-sign Spain then and pick a WR or DE at Pick 22.. There may be no DE worth the pick or WR depending how it falls ... It's no man's land where the best value looks to be Oline, DB We may need to move up to grab a WR or End. Staying put would leave us with a host of lineman , DBs , possibly DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There may be no DE worth the pick or WR depending how it falls ... It's no man's land where the best value looks to be Oline, DB We may need to move up to grab a WR or End. Staying put would leave us with a host of lineman , DBs , possibly DT I know Ruiz had been mocked to the Bills at 22 but I don’t see it.. Please feel free to bump this thread on draft night to rub my nose in it.. I will predict now that there is a WR or DE available that they take in the draft at that spot.. Other option will be that the pick has been traded away for a DE or WR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I know Ruiz had been mocked to the Bills at 22 but I don’t see it.. Please feel free to bump this thread on draft night to rub my nose in it.. I will predict now that there is a WR or DE available that they take in the draft at that spot.. Other option will be that the pick has been traded away for a DE or WR.. First if you actually read my OP I never said I think the Bills will draft him. I actually said I don't think they will I said if I was GM and the board fell a certain way I would consider this personally And I didn't even know he was mocked to us. I don't pay attention to those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I have nothing against drafting an elite OG or C in the first round. Rush the passer and protect the passer. But not this year. They need 3 front 7 defenders in the first four rounds of this draft and a WR. Even if they sign AJ Green, I would still take a WR in the second round. Best case scenario is bring back Spain on an affordable deal, keep Ford at RT, and add youth to the OLB and DE positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 From walterfootball Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan Height: 6-4. Weight: 319. Projected 40 Time: 5.29. Projected Round (2020): 3-5.2/8/20: Ruiz decided to skip his senior year to enter the 2020 NFL Draft after putting together a quality collegiate career for Michigan. He is a well-balanced blocker in the ground game and in pass protection. Additionally, he has a lot of experience from being a 3-year starter. Ruiz has enough size to also compete at guard as well. To start his NFL career, Ruiz could serve as a game-day backup for both guard spots and center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 He is my #2 center. Tyler Biadasz from Wisconsin is my #1. I think Ruiz will be a solid pro not sure I'd see him as the value at #22 but I am struggling at the moment for a pick I really love at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Why is the OP in odd sized fonts? Usually happens when you copy and paste. newbee move. I made the same mistake when I was in one of my first posts. Mostly, because I’m half blind without my glasses. Buffalo is no newbee, so maybe he lost his cheaters for that morning. You know I’m kidding 716. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I will never be mad at taking an OL prospect (assuming it’s not a gigantic reach like a guy projected in the 7th), so I’d be fine with Ruiz. I think we’re at the point where we will be tempted to go in a lot of different directions that the media doesn’t necessary see coming. There will certainly be talented WRs like a Shenault, Jefferson, Aiyuk, Reagor, etc. available at our pick and maybe some worthwhile Edge prospects, but given the depth at WR and the potential that the Edge guys are gone, a more long-term need or secondary need like CB, OL, or safety wouldn’t surprise me. Could even justify a LB depending on how negotiations with Milano are going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA Oh please. Brandon Schreff was touted as one of the best OT in the draft and the Redskins moved him to guard after taking him #5 overall. Marshal Yanda was drafted as a right tackle before switching to guard and he's been to seven pro bowls. Ford's strengths make him much more suited as a starting guard and I suspect he'll dominate at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Interesting. But I think it comes down to Spain. Staying or signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, NC Book said: I would not be mad at this. I'm all for monsters in the trenches. Lots of WR depth in this draft. I may actually prefer going that route in rounds 2 or 3. Agreed. OL or DL for in 1st round. I am hoping we deal with WR in FA. We need a #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You don't draft a RT prospect in round 2 and convert him to guard after 1 year RT is a hard position to play and most peak at 28-30, unless you draft Lane Johnson In the first round Ford will be Ok, we haven't had a good RT here in a long time because we don't let them develop Line play across the league is at an all time low, you need development unless you wanna rely on waiver wire and FA Ford played almost entirely at guard in college until his senior year. He was one of the best guards in the country. His footwork isn’t quick enough to handle fast edge rushers and that was evident. There is nothing wrong at all with moving him inside to his best position. By going after a true RT, our line solves two needs with one addition. I don’t see how this is a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I’m all for improving the line, and we need to add a piece somewhere, either Rt or lg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Round 2 or 3 ? Round 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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