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46 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Your responses are extremely telling.  Not one mention of what you think Sanders could actually do for this country.  Just turn it all into a slam of Trump.

His National emergency powers to fight global warming should be interesting 

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1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  Your responses are extremely telling.  Not one mention of what you think Sanders could actually do for this country.  Just turn it all into a slam of Trump.

In another post he's giddy about the covid19 virus...he's a despicable pos.

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10 minutes ago, Wacka said:

the covid19 virus is kulling people. That make it ecstatic ) Tibs is an it because he is lower than  pond scum.

 

  Tiberius should have been banned a long time ago.  Mods?  Somebody cheering the death of those who have fallen because of illness should be gone.

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6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Tiberius should have been banned a long time ago.  Mods?  Somebody cheering the death of those who have fallen because of illness should be gone.

Nope nothing will happen to him. But saying "democrat" in the bills forum in a post about racism is a dire wrong doing.

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26 minutes ago, Albwan said:

Nope nothing will happen to him. But saying "democrat" in the bills forum in a post about racism is a dire wrong doing.

Be careful what you ask for. We here at PPP pay the price for virtually no moderation by having to put up with pond scum and nuts. 

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Lots of Democrats are in full panic that Bernie Sanders will win the nomination and get clobbered in the general election — and bring the party down, too. But the evidence, particularly the polling, doesn't back those doomsday warnings.

Why it matters: Virtually every national and swing state poll shows Sanders tied with or beating President Trump.  And, unlike every rival, he has a huge base of fervent, unshakable supporters he can only grow.

Just the facts, please: A Quinnipiac Poll last week showed Sanders beating Trump in Michigan and Pennsylvania. A CBS News/YouGov poll showed Sanders beating Trump nationally.

  • Texas Lyceum poll shows Sanders doing better against Trump in Texas than any Democrat, losing by just three points.

He’s socially savvier: Sanders has much larger followings on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and other platforms than his rivals — and has consistently shown new media sophistication others lack. 

Loyalty matters: The guy’s base writes checks regularly, for years now, making him the best-funded non-billionaire in the Democratic game. His supporters also show up — on social, at rallies, in elections. Ask Trump if this matters. 

Socialism hasn’t killed him: It’s not like Sanders hides his big government socialism — he has screamed it to the nation for a half-decade. Maybe voters don’t care, just like 45% don’t care about Trump’s outlandishness.

Peter Hamby, who works for Snapchat and writes for Vanity Fair, argues "bed-wetting" Democrats might have it all wrong:

  • "Instead of asking if Sanders is unelectable, ask another question: What if Sanders is actually the MOST electable Democrat? In the age of Trump, hyper-partisanship, institutional distrust, and social media, Sanders could be examined as a candidate almost custom-built to go head-to-head with Trump this year."
  • He’s a Trump-like celebrity: "Running for president has always been about winning the attention war, and the competition for attention has never been more difficult than it is in 2020,” Hamby writes. Sanders has way more old-school and new-age celebrity than the rest of his rivals combined. 

The bottom line: The truth is we are all clueless about what voters want or will accept. That includes everyone on Twitter, inside the Democratic establishment — and me!

https://www.axios.com/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-election-chances-3459ae66-0aa0-4a53-97f8-732e8cbb5d9f.html

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Be careful what you ask for. We here at PPP pay the price for virtually no moderation by having to put up with pond scum and nuts. 

...again, tibs and those other freaks can say what they like, i dare someone more right spew the same filth and see what happens...

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4 hours ago, Albwan said:

...again, tibs and those other freaks can say what they like, i dare someone more right spew the same filth and see what happens...

There are a few exceptions but generally those of us on the conservative side will at least listen to the libs and their mouthpieces, if only to mock them. Liberals are the least tolerant people I know. Conservatives have much more open minds. 

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Meh. This election WAS almost certainly going to be a referendum on Trump. That NEVER works.

 

A candidate with ideas as polarizing as Sanders' changes that dynamic quite a bit. Whatever you may think of his policies on minimum wage and universal healthcare, that socialist fella NEVER backs down.

 

The Dems are making the BEST decision possible by nominating a candidate who will actually mobilize folks who don't generally vote. Forget the middle. It doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's going to win, but he's got the best shot.

 

Downballot Dems ie the establishment have a pretty AWFUL track record in terms of prognostications, so the fact that they're "concerned" is a good sign.

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7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Meh. This election WAS almost certainly going to be a referendum on Trump. That NEVER works.

 

A candidate with ideas as polarizing as Sanders' changes that dynamic quite a bit. Whatever you may think of his policies on minimum wage and universal healthcare, that socialist fella NEVER backs down.

 

The Dems are making the BEST decision possible by nominating a candidate who will actually mobilize folks who don't generally vote. Forget the middle. It doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's going to win, but he's got the best shot.

 

Downballot Dems ie the establishment have a pretty AWFUL track record in terms of prognostications, so the fact that they're "concerned" is a good sign.

Wrong, Just because the democrats are whack don't include the other 60 million people who are more middle than not.

Most people on this board are in the middle. Don't lump us all in with you and your 5 or so whacked out lefty buddies who troll here.

lurker pos

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2 minutes ago, Albwan said:

Wrong, Just because the democrats are whack don't include the other 60 million people who are more middle than not.

Most people on this board are in the middle. Don't lump us all in with you and your 5 or so whacked out lefty buddies who troll here.

Do I know you?

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9 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Be careful what you ask for. We here at PPP pay the price for virtually no moderation by having to put up with pond scum and nuts. 


that’s what ignore is for. I agree. 
 

Tibs is such a demented fool ignore is the best option 

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16 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

... The Dems are making the BEST decision possible by nominating a candidate who will actually mobilize folks who don't generally vote. Forget the middle. It doesn't exist. I'm not saying he's going to win, but he's got the best shot. ...

Sanders Says He’ll Attract a Wave of New Voters. It Hasn’t Happened.

 CHARLESTON, S.C. — It is the most politically provocative part of Senator Bernie Sanders’s campaign pitch: that his progressive movement will bring millions of nonvoters into the November election, driving record turnout especially among disaffected working-class Americans and young people.

 

And yet despite a virtual tie in Iowa, a narrow victory in New Hampshire and a big triumph in Nevada, the first three nominating contests reveal a fundamental challenge for Mr. Sanders’s political revolution: He may be winning, but not because of his longstanding pledge to expand the Democratic base.

 

The results so far show that Mr. Sanders has prevailed by broadening his appeal among traditional Democratic voters, not by fundamentally transforming the electorate.

 

In Iowa, for instance, turnout for the caucuses was lower than expected, up 3 percent compared with 2016, and the increase was concentrated in more well-educated areas where Mr. Sanders struggled, according to a New York Times analysis; in the Iowa precincts where Mr. Sanders won, turnout increased by only 1 percentage point.

 

There was no sign of a Sanders voter surge in New Hampshire either, nor on Saturday in Nevada, where the nearly final results indicated that turnout would finish above 2016 but well short of 2008 levels, despite a decade of population growth and a new early voting option that attracted some 75,000 voters. The low numbers are all the more striking given the huge turnout in the 2018 midterm elections, which was the highest in a century.

 

There was also no clear evidence across the early states of much greater participation by young people, a typically low-turnout group that makes up a core part of Mr. Sanders’s base and that he has long said he can motivate to get out to the polls. And Mr. Sanders has struggled to overcome his longstanding weakness in affluent, well-educated suburbs, where Democrats excelled in the midterm elections and where many traditionally Republican voters are skeptical about President Trump’s performance, meaning they could be up for grabs in November. ...

 

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On 2/23/2020 at 9:54 PM, Cinga said:

Did you write this? Or do you have a link to the original? I'd like to copy it but want to be sure where it came from... 

 

It was a comment off of a Yahoo news article. I looked @ the Wiki article he used as a source, it was all there. Sorry I dont have the original link, i cut and pasted from my phone.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday attempted to calm House Democrats who are expressing concern over the potential of having Bernie Sanders at the top of the ticket in November, saying the party will stay unified and candidates will run on a mainstream agenda that will appeal to voters.

 
 

Unity, unity, unity. Whoever our nominee is, we will support,” Pelosi said at a news conference.

 
 

Democrats representing swing districts have been raising alarms that Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist who is proposing expansive government programs and higher taxes on the wealthy, is going to turn off voters in parts of the country that the party is counting on to hold its House majority. Democrats will be defending House seats in 30 districts President Donald Trump won in 2016.

 
 

Pelosi said Democrats will keep the majority by campaigning on the same themes and issues that they used to win the House in 2018, one that is “mainstream and not menacing.”

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-27/pelosi-talks-up-party-unity-with-some-democrats-wary-of-sanders?srnd=premium ?‍?‍?‍?

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