row_33 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Foxx said: 0% chance of a lock out. and just for the record, the owners lock out, the players strike. ? nah. its easily the weakest players union in major pro sports, they are always getting trucked at negotiations the nature of the game is a weekly paycheck, for practically every player, and you can get cut for any reason at any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: its easily the weakest players union in major pro sports, they are always getting trucked at negotiations the nature of the game is a weekly paycheck, for practically every player, and you can get cut for any reason at any time nah. the other unions are just unusually strong. remember, we are talking about grown men playing kids games. it is you and i that are getting screwed in the end. $12 for a ***** can of beer, give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, hjnick said: I think 2 byes is a good thing if going to 17 games, BUT I would make 1 bye be in the middle of the season where every player gets off. Sort of like a football midseason bye week where there could be a 'All star game' type of feel and have skills competitions. Then an additional floating bye throughout the season. That actually stretches out the regular season to 19 weeks. That won't happen as tv networks will want to air games all 19 weeks. The popularity of fantasy football and gambling should keep ratings up. What they should do is give the two TNF teams a bye the weekend before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 hours ago, MJS said: Really don't want expanded playoffs. Diluting the quality of the playoffs is not the answer. Except crappy teams making it happens more often if they expand it. An extra week of crappy playoff teams is still better to me than an extra week of all teams. I still can’t figure out why they can’t find other ways to get more tv money out of the 256 games they already play. Just addBig a week seems like the least imaginative thing a 20 billion dollar industry could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: IMO it will ruin the league if that happens. Just like it ruined the NBA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Why would anyone ask a question about a lockout when the current CBA runs through next season & reports are the new agreement will be done within a month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, mannc said: Just like it ruined the NBA?? Team roster sizes and player time on the field/court make the comparison apples and oranges. But the long term guaranteed contracts in the NHL is having a negative effect on the game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 sounds like the new cba is about to be passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: An extra week of crappy playoff teams is still better to me than an extra week of all teams. I still can’t figure out why they can’t find other ways to get more tv money out of the 256 games they already play. Just addBig a week seems like the least imaginative thing a 20 billion dollar industry could do. I personally prefer the playoffs to remain difficult to get into and I like the fact that good teams sometimes don't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1230604384956043264?s=20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 If I am the NFLPA I answer back with: 1. Larger % of TV money. 2. Stop testing for pot. 3. An extra bye. 4. Less contact in camp, pre season, season etc. If I am the owners, I concede all of those things, but mandate more time in the facility in the offseason. Product will be better, so the fans are happy. NFL makes more money. Players make more money. We are all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1230604384956043264?s=20 Part of his tweet. Seems the owners have voted. Up to the NFLPA now. Edited February 20, 2020 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, MJS said: I personally prefer the playoffs to remain difficult to get into and I like the fact that good teams sometimes don't make it. not me. I’d rather more meaningful tournament games and less meaningless reg season games. 2 of the 16 week 17 game mattered for anything at all. Boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Part of his tweet. Seems the owners have voted. Up to the NFLPA now. Haha, well that's the easy part. Hard part is getting the player's association on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, MJS said: Haha, well that's the easy part. Hard part is getting the player's association on board. They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 jj watt voting no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Rosters will be expanded to 55 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Lock out no, some wheeling and dealing by NFLPA yes. Likely will be 17 games, 7 playoff teams per conference, 2 bye weeks, down to 2-3 preseason games, and importantly an expanded game day roster. NFL gets 17 games and 7 playoff teams per conference. NFLPA gets 2 bye weeks, one or two less preseason games and increased union membership. That seems a win-win. If the 17th game is split fairly this means a London/Toronto/Mexico City game for each team to try to expand the sport. England, Canada and Mexico are the obvious tries to expand. Now that the UK is not beholden to the EU, even more so as a business. (does not have to comply with EU regulations on sport). East Coast teams play in London or Montreal, Midwest teams play in Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton (CFL stadiums), west coast plays in Mexico City or Vancouver. CFL stadiums make the most sense for an immediate major expansion. Maybe this is a move to investing in the CFL, Arena Football League or XFL? The NFL doesn't yet have a farm system. A 9-8 home and away schedule is unfair, and the NFL wants to expand like the NBA. Each team should have to play the 17th game as an away game IMO. In a way this helps Buffalo if Toronto or even Montreal are designated foreign cities. I can see Buffalo being a regular participant in Toronto, Montreal or London games. I would gladly take one of those trips a year. If I were the NFLPA I would want no divisional games in a foreign market, no divisional games before a foreign trip, and one of my bye weeks immediately after a foreign trip. Keep the rivalries alive stateside. Interconference games should be the foreign game, IMO. Buffalo vs Dallas in London or Toronto would have been amazing. Changes will happen to our NFL. I am not a fan, but since this seems a lock, then manage it properly. Sadly I don't see this common sense approach working out, but I hope for the best. The game continues to walk away from me. Edited February 21, 2020 by RocCityRoller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Greg S said: I am not so sure I want expanded playoffs. I don't want the NFL to become like the NHL/NBA with how many teams make the playoffs. What are we going to have a 6-10 team making the playoffs. I mean 6-11 if they have a 17 game season. Keep it at 16 games and don't add more playoff teams. JMHO!!! How the hell are 6 win teams going make the playoffs? The only way to make the playoffs with a losing record is to win your division. The 7th playoff team is still going to likely be 9+ wins, like when the Pats missed the playoffs with double digit wins when Brady went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Mango said: If I am the NFLPA I answer back with: 1. Larger % of TV money. 2. Stop testing for pot. 3. An extra bye. 4. Less contact in camp, pre season, season etc. If I am the owners, I concede all of those things, but mandate more time in the facility in the offseason. Product will be better, so the fans are happy. NFL makes more money. Players make more money. We are all good. Fixed it: 1. Larger % of TV money 2. Medical expenses covered for life 3. Extra bye (no preseason games) 4. No contact in camp (camp Marv style) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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