RochesterRob Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I went to Czechoslovakia and Poland back when they were communist. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, good about living under communist rule. The dogs and machine guns patrolling the tracks and streets, the shortages of food, clothing, basic hygiene needs... simply horrible. Imagine a city like Krakow having one (old) car on the main road. A family of four, five assigned a “house” (apartment) with two rooms. If you had connections, you might also have a bathroom. Anyone who feels there is anything redeeming about communism (or socialism) needs their head examined. Once in a while an indication of the conditions got by the censors. One time something was written about not being able to keep weight on. Had the two individuals never known each other personally the statement about weight would only be taken as an observation about the person. But having grown up together as sisters the US relative knew it would be very uncharacteristic of the other to comment about her weight without it meaning more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Once in a while an indication of the conditions got by the censors. One time something was written about not being able to keep weight on. Had the two individuals never known each other personally the statement about weight would only be taken as an observation about the person. But having grown up together as sisters the US relative knew it would be very uncharacteristic of the other to comment about her weight without it meaning more. China is communist and they have the second largest economy in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: That's just your truth. It's not The Truth. I don't pretend to be enlightened. But I'm also not an idiot. I don't like that Bernie is winning right now... but... Bernie over Trump in 2020 any day of the week... even if Bernie isn't my 1st choice. 'Bernie over Trump any day of the week'... obviously, you believe Bernies policies are going to be better than Trump's. leaving the rhetoric of Trump behind and out of your evaluation, please explain where Bernie's policies would be more beneficial than the ones Trump is and has been implementing. TYIA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: China is communist and they have the second largest economy in the world. Which has nothing to do with what I am talking about. A communist nation can generate economic output and still be a crappy place to live. If you believe in communism then go find a communist country to live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Which has nothing to do with what I am talking about. A communist nation can generate economic output and still be a crappy place to live. If you believe in communism then go find a communist country to live in. So are autocracies, go live in Russia Sanders can't turn us into a communist nation, but Trump is sure smashing up the republic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So are autocracies, go live in Russia Sanders can't turn us into a communist nation, but Trump is sure smashing up the republic, Living in a constant state of hysteria as to block reason is no way to go through life. Comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Welcome to the battle likely to ensue til November. Just remember... Trump has the backing of the massive monetary weight of the Republican Party behind him... along with Russia... who has obviously been backing Trump... (can't wait for the moron who retorts by saying they're also backing Bernie and can't obviously piece that together) That's why I fear Trump will be reelected and have for 3 plus years. The American people don't want Trump in office because he's a terrible President. But he might get reelected because of a 2nd election of ridiculous circumstances. It's funny. People like @Deranged Rhino keep pointing to things like fundraising while completely glossing over the fact that as you folks are touting Trump's fundraising you're also neglecting the fact that Hillary raised 400 million more than him in 2016. While I don't want Bernie as the nominee, I will vote for him. And Bernie very well would have won in 2016 if he were nominated, anyway. Now, the kids are 4 years older and you have more able to vote. Like it or not, the 18-22 year olds who became eligible to vote since Trump took office in 2016 and the 23-40 year olds (I'm not one of them) will not be complacent this time around assuming their candidate will win... they'll vote... Kurt Russell is a boomer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: China is communist and they have the second largest economy in the world. I 'd ask if you are serious but why bother? Odds are 50/50 that you will post something extremely ignorant rather than just simply ignorant every time you post. China has 4.25 times the population than we do. If communism was better than capitalism then their economy would be 4.25 times better or more than our economy. Please, go crawl back under your rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I went to Czechoslovakia and Poland back when they were communist. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, good about living under communist rule. The dogs and machine guns patrolling the tracks and streets, the shortages of food, clothing, basic hygiene needs... simply horrible. Imagine a city like Krakow having one (old) car on the main road. A family of four, five assigned a “house” (apartment) with two rooms. If you had connections, you might also have a bathroom. Anyone who feels there is anything redeeming about communism (or socialism) needs their head examined. Ditto what you said. I was in East Germany and East Berlin before the wall came down. Why anyone would purposely want to live under those conditions is mind boggling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) is this right? 50% of precincts reporting and the totals are under 8,000 votes? if that is true, then Democrats turnout has to be a large red flag for the establishment, as well as being quite laughable. 2020 Nevada caucus election results Edited February 23, 2020 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Living in a constant state of hysteria as to block reason is no way to go through life. Comrade. This is exactly what so many here are doing about Bernie. I honestly can't believe the pearl clutching throughout this forum about Bernie and how he will bring death to America. People are comparing him getting elected to living is east germany during the cold war! Everyone loves to laugh at the left for how bent out of shape they got and continue to be towards Trump. Yet so many are ramping up and doing the same towards Sanders. He isn't going to bring communism to America. If you believe in America then you believe in the system of checks and balances that has worked for over 200 years. If you think a guy can come in and destroy the country in 4 years you sound like the dems in 2016. Even that would only apply if he was this evil red caricature you have all lapped up from the media. I can't keep straight if you guys think the media is a narrative spinning machine or to be trusted on all things Bernie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: I 'd ask if you are serious but why bother? Odds are 50/50 that you will post something extremely ignorant rather than just simply ignorant every time you post. China has 4.25 times the population than we do. If communism was better than capitalism then their economy would be 4.25 times better or more than our economy. Please, go crawl back under your rock. I was going to bring this up but didn’t want to waste my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: That's just your truth. It's not The Truth. I don't pretend to be enlightened. But I'm also not an idiot. I don't like that Bernie is winning right now... but... Bernie over Trump in 2020 any day of the week... even if Bernie isn't my 1st choice. when do you get that Trump avatar ? the sleepy joe fanboy thing didn’t pan out the 18-22 year old voters are busy taking bong hits and sitting on each other’s faces. Voting lmao ? Edited February 23, 2020 by Teddy KGB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 ....thinkin' perhaps thread title is incorrect....prefer" Nevada Carcasses" much better.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Foxx said: is this right? 50% of precincts reporting and the totals are under 8,000 votes? if that is true, then Democrats turnout has to be a large red flag for the establishment, as well as being quite laughable. 2020 Nevada caucus election results Those are delegate votes not actual votes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, section122 said: Those are delegate votes not actual votes it appears you are correct and i was prettys sure that those weren't the actual vote(r) totals. however, i *think i might have found actual voter totals and to be honest, they are still somewhat underwhelming, again, if these numbers are the actual voter turnout. less then 60k with 60% reporting which would mean less than 100k in toto when all accounted for. Nevada Caucuses 2020: Live Results Edited February 23, 2020 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: 18-26 year old minimum. And truthfully, older than that, too. The 30 year olds saw Obama elected in a year all the prognostications had Romney winning... remember the sheer and utter shock and disappointment??? And youth voter turnout was lower in 2012 than 2004 by percentage... but Obama won. It wasn't a movement. 2008 was. That was when youth turnout was higher than it had been in 30+ years. New movement. Oust Trump First you were certain Biden would be the one to end Trump — then he cratered like I promised he would. Then it was Mayor Pete and Warren you swore would be the end of Trump — then they both cratered as I promised they would. Now it’s Sanders and the 18-26 year old demo who are going to turn out (in numbers they’ve never ever turned out before) who will end Trump — but, like your other false hopes, this will be dashed too. Might want to get used to your new avatar my friend. You’re in for a loooong 5 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: it appears you are correct and i was prettys sure that those weren't the actual vote(r) totals. however, i *think i might have found actual voter totals and to be honest, they are still somewhat underwhelming, again, if these numbers are the actual voter turnout. less then 50k with 60% reporting which would mean less than 90k in toto when all accounted for. Nevada Caucuses 2020: Live Results ...good find bud...thanks.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Bernie isn't communism. As much as your insane right leaning media and tweets are about to tell you... Bernie does NOT equal Hitler As others have pointed out to you, Bernie is most certainly a communist. Mao, Stalin, Marx, some people you may want to read up on since Bernie wants to reset America. ? Edited February 23, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Foxx said: it appears you are correct and i was prettys sure that those weren't the actual vote(r) totals. however, i *think i might have found actual voter totals and to be honest, they are still somewhat underwhelming, again, if these numbers are the actual voter turnout. less then 60k with 60% reporting which would mean less than 100k in toto when all accounted for. Nevada Caucuses 2020: Live Results took me quite awhile to find the actual voter numbers from '16 (stupid delegate reporting only on most sites (wonder why that is)). in '16 they had a turnout of 84k voters, so it appears that the numbers are on par with the last election caucus. again though, with the DNC/MSM fever of #orangemanbad, one would think that the turnout would be much higher. and if one were to compare these numbers to the turnout to elect Obama and shun the Bushista era, the numbers are way down, in the neighborhood of 30%. personally, i just don't see the MSM narrative of there being this massive voter sentiment to unseat Trump as ringing anywhere near being true. rather it is just their made up fantasy. Nevada Democratic caucus turnout lower than in 2008 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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