Turk71 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Paulus said: Clears cap space, and let's Star know we want to keep him for the remainder of his contract. Basically, until he retires. Doesn't let Star know they want to keep him past this year at all imo. The restructure will make it easier to keep him if they so desire, but the Bills can easily move on after this year if that is what they decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I prefer adding incentives with a needed pay cut to try and motivate better play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Lotulelei wouldn't even start for most NFL teams IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, BillsVet said: Doesn't matter what the defense does if the offense can't keep a drive going and score points, which is what in 3 straight seasons they haven't become good at. Which means the defense is on the field more than they should be. I guess people have forgotten the wild card loss when they gave up that 16 points lead in less than 1.5 quarters. NFL teams are defined in the playoffs by how well they score points. Not their defensive prowess against a lightweight schedule during the regular season. Look dude, disagree with me. Don't really care. But grow up? Is this high school? Yeah you’re right....having a good defensive doesn’t matter LOL. The last 1.5 quarters define our entire season...geezus. The 49ers gave up 14 points in 7 minutes after being up by 10 in the 4th. I won’t even bring up the last TD as the game was already over. I guess that means the 49ers defense was terrible. Yes grow up. Those with your consistent crusade and bringing up stupid **** like Pegula threatening the credentials of the writers who talk negatively about the Bills (LOLOLOL). This is stuff 13 year olds come up with and that’s you....you act like an angry teen. Edited February 12, 2020 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Oh the humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 i always thought it was weird the way the structured the deal with the first year 6 mil cap hit and the higher caps in the later years. good on getting some more cap room. what are we gonna spend on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 hours ago, Bangarang said: What’s the point of this? Wondering the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Lmao at this thread You're so right. And here's another: 8 hours ago, BillsVet said: His decisions around not building an offense are what should be questioned. That side of the ball was a straight-up mess in 2018 and this past season managed to be bottom quartile of the league in many categories. 24th in total yards. 26th in total passing yards. 23rd in points. At this point in the NFL, having a very good defense is the equivalent of handing out participation trophies. They're nice to look at, but don't represent anything substantive. How many times does Mahomes have to carve up a top defense for people to see offense is what sets winners apart from pretenders? Yeah, offense bad in 2018 when they didn't put any resources into it. News flash, though. That's what happens in rebuilds, and especially rebuilds when the previous regime left you in very bad shape cap-wise. You suck for a couple of years. "How many times does Mahomes have to carve up a top defense for people to see offense is what sets winners apart from pretenders," you ask? Great question. Here's another, with just as much logical sense. How many terrific oranges do you have to eat before you realize that no other kind of fruit is worth eating? I mean, you may have asked the world's dumbest question there. I guess that's an achievement. Edited February 12, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 hours ago, JoeF said: @FieldYates The Bills and starting DT Star Lotulelei have agreed to a restructured contract for the final three years of his deal. For 2020, Lotulelei’s base salary drops by $1.75M, but becomes fully guaranteed, with $2.5M in injury guarantees for 2021 added. Some benefit for both sides. The guy takes a lot of grief -- but I think he does his job pretty well. His contract is likely an overpay but this corrects it a bit. Maybe room to sign Jordan Phillips. Murphy/Smith/Kroft, cut these clowns and save another 15mill, which puts us well 95 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 hours ago, JoeF said: @FieldYates The Bills and starting DT Star Lotulelei have agreed to a restructured contract for the final three years of his deal. For 2020, Lotulelei’s base salary drops by $1.75M, but becomes fully guaranteed, with $2.5M in injury guarantees for 2021 added. Some benefit for both sides. The guy takes a lot of grief -- but I think he does his job pretty well. His contract is likely an overpay but this corrects it a bit. Maybe room to sign Jordan Phillips. Nope, it means he's gone after this season. DL is for a big makeover next 2 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Murphy/Smith/Kroft, cut these clowns and save another 15mill, which puts us well 95 million Why. Would. You. Cut. Murphy. He makes an average of $7M, which is peanuts for a DE, and he was productive last year. Don't cut good players just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, thebandit27 said: Why. Would. You. Cut. Murphy. He makes an average of $7M, which is peanuts for a DE, and he was productive last year. Don't cut good players just because. Exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 the posters that i thought would make this thread interesting definitely delivered. nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 hours ago, biggerdaddynj said: Agree that it’s time to move on but give Hauschka some credit for turning things around very nicely at the end of the season when the pitchforks were out and people wanted to run him out of town for some unproven nobodies. Send the guy off with the dignity he earned. Think we can all agree on that. And, I'm not just blaming you—I meant to post this before but the occasion never arose. You're right that he did get better towards the second half of the season. And really, I'm not a Hauschka hater - I appreciate what he's done in Buffalo, but I also don't want to get too sentimental about a player that might very well be more of a liability than an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, BigBuff423 said: You're right that he did get better towards the second half of the season. And really, I'm not a Hauschka hater - I appreciate what he's done in Buffalo, but I also don't want to get too sentimental about a player that might very well be more of a liability than an asset. Good teams are constantly bringing in competition for their specialists. There’s no better use of a day 3 pick than on a quality kicker or punter—they’re the most likely players to make your 53 from day 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yeah you’re right....having a good defensive doesn’t matter LOL. The last 1.5 quarters define our entire season...geezus. The 49ers gave up 14 points in 7 minutes after being up by 10 in the 4th. I won’t even bring up the last TD as the game was already over. I guess that means the 49ers defense was terrible. Yes grow up. Those with your consistent crusade and bringing up stupid **** like Pegula threatening the credentials of the writers who talk negatively about the Bills (LOLOLOL). This is stuff 13 year olds come up with and that’s you....you act like an angry teen. i think you two need to have a drink and see where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: Lotulelei wouldn't even start for most NFL teams IMO. You're so Pretty! The Bills had the #2 D on points, #3 on yards DESPITE lack of offensive production, and you think one of our key DLmen wouldn't even start for most teams? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Why. Would. You. Cut. Murphy. He makes an average of $7M, which is peanuts for a DE, and he was productive last year. Don't cut good players just because. Including Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Nah. He was overpaid. Not sure it is a big enough cut to justify it with his play. But every little helps. I will respectfully disagree. I think when you look at where the team was at the time in terms of the Defense, what their needs were and what the market was at the time, it seemed on par to me. Also, he was not brought in to be Kyle Williams 2.0 whose biggest asset was rushing the passer from the inside. I'm not saying that Star is a premiere DT, I'm saying the Bills paid him according to the market value of what they needed at the time. He's done what he's been asked to do. If you think he should be doing something different, and I don't, then that's a coaching issue, not so much what they're paying him. IMHO 15 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Sounds like not only people on this board disagree with you. I'm not really sure what that means...?? Unless you're implying that the Bills seem to think he didn't perform well? If that's your assertion I would suggest you're wrong. I think they saw the ability to save some money, be able to move on next year if they choose to and yet give him some guarantees so he doesn't have to be concerned about not seeing the money in his contract. IMO, it was a means to helping out both sides, but not because they didn't think he played according to their expectations. It sounds like you disagree, so - that's where I'll leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's one of those offseason moves that makes sense on paper...........until September when the player with the effort issues has just spent an entire offseason without any financial motivation to prepare for it. $4.25M isn't debilitating if he stinks but it's probably not money they should have guaranteed just to save $1.75M. I'm just interested to see what else they do now. Asking a player to take a salary cut is always a motivational risk. But IMO the Bills had a problem in trying to negotiate contracts with other part-time, rotational DLmen and that problem was called "Star's Contract". Anyone they try to sign looks over there and says "Ah.....HIM. Paid like HIM". The renegotiation may bring Star's contract more in line with others the Bills may be trying to negotiate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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