MJS Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: It’s honestly without question Rugby. Rugby has all the violence of football, none of the pads or protection, and the constant pace of soccer. And then there is the after game drinking haha. Wanna test your liver, go drinking with some Rugby players after a game haha. Ok, so you are just guessing. I believe there are more injuries in football, especially catastrophic injuries, and I believe Rugby players are more safe in their tackling techniques (because they have to be and because the rules allow for that). There's less blind side hits because receivers aren't looking back for the ball (there are no forward passes in rugby so the ball isn't coming from behind). The system of having yards to gain and downs forces defenders to fight for every single inch whereas in Rugby it doesn't usually matter if the ball carrier gains another yard or so during the tackle, so they can focus more on punching the ball out. Also, the hard pads are a CAUSE of injuries in football just as much as a deterrent for multiple reasons. One, helmets and other hard pads are hard and cause injuries to other players in collisions. I personally broke my wrist as it was caught in the facemask of a player during a tackle when I was in high school. Hard pads also embolden players to throw their body around because they feel protected, instead of making more technical tackles. But Rugby scrums have significant neck and spinal injury risk, especially for the hooker who has his arms pinned behind his back and can't protect his head or neck if things go badly. I think football is the more dangerous sport, due mostly to the rules and mechanics. I don't question the toughness of Rugby players (or football players). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just noting that there's a considerable disparity between this information and the information on club salary cap provided by GunnerBill. It is, of course, possible that a professional athlete can earn as much or more than their salary from endorsements. If Wade's net worth is that high, then he must really want to play NFL Football because he has no or little financial incentive. he had said he’s taking a considerable pay cut to enter the NFL 7 hours ago, Lurker said: You realize that contract went away when Wade was cut? Right? He makes the fixed weekly rate that practice squad guys get. Which is bupkis vs. what he was making at rugby.. then tell Spotrac to update their site I just copy and paste them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 More hype for this guy on this board than Da'Rick Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: More hype for this guy on this board than Da'Rick Rogers Steady on, Dude. I don't see anyone here hyping him up. He's an RB. We need an RB. A member of the media made the point not to expect to see him on the 53 man roster. We're discussing that and his salary. I think someone mentioned that there's a Bills Fan Facebook group with a significant case of Wade-love. Did you even read the thread before chiming in? Did you search and see when the last time he was even mentioned was? I think it was before Game 16 when someone wondered if Wade could be activated from PS for the game and the answer was "No". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Steady on, Dude. I don't see anyone here hyping him up. He's an RB. We need an RB. A member of the media made the point not to expect to see him on the 53 man roster. We're discussing that and his salary. I think someone mentioned that there's a Bills Fan Facebook group with a significant case of Wade-love. Did you even read the thread before chiming in? Did you search and see when the last time he was even mentioned was? I think it was before Game 16 when someone wondered if Wade could be activated from PS for the game and the answer was "No". Nope, just wanted to say Da'Rick Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Easy to root for but I give him the same chance of making this roster as I do of the Bills winning the Super Bowl with EJ Manuel as our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Nope, just wanted to say Da'Rick Rogers Playing with the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: It’s honestly without question Rugby. Rugby has all the violence of football, none of the pads or protection, and the constant pace of soccer. And then there is the after game drinking haha. Wanna test your liver, go drinking with some Rugby players after a game haha. I played football growing up, but rugby in college. Put on a helmet and shoulder pads and everyone thinks they are a lethal weapon. I saw PLENTY of gruesome injuries in rugby, with a lot more blood and a horrific fractured skull, but I think the mentality actually makes football the more dangerous sport. And a rugby party beats a tailgate, with or without burning tables! If only for the songs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: There really are no holes in rugby. Sure he needs good vision but good vision doesn't equal ability to see and hit an NFL hole Against 4th stringer's he saw and hit a cutback that most college players could've hit honestly and Id be almost Willing to bet that against 1s the speed of the game will be overwhelming probably Running backs in football spend a decade learning how to read holes properly and many still struggle in the NFL I know it's not as easy as it sounds I don't think it is true that there are "no holes in rugby" but it is different. It is, as I said much earlier in the thread, more akin to the vision you need returning punts and kicks than the vision you need to run between the tackles as a running back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think it is true that there are "no holes in rugby" but it is different. It is, as I said much earlier in the thread, more akin to the vision you need returning punts and kicks than the vision you need to run between the tackles as a running back. Yes that's a better description and I can agree 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I feel like it isn't much of a stretch to say that ANY practice squad player is unlikely to be on the 53 man roster next year. That's just the nature of the situation for players on the practice squad. 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think it is true that there are "no holes in rugby" but it is different. It is, as I said much earlier in the thread, more akin to the vision you need returning punts and kicks than the vision you need to run between the tackles as a running back. The no blocker aspect is just so different. On punt returns and kick returns you are still following blockers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, MJS said: The no blocker aspect is just so different. On punt returns and kick returns you are still following blockers. Rugby still has set up blocks. Think if them like difference between a legal rub and an illegal pick. But you can run combinations designed to wall off defenders to create lanes for your ball carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Playing with the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL, isn't he? I think he's out of football now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 5:05 PM, jimmy10 said: Why is the sky blue? Why do Bills fans assume Mahomes would be the exact same player here? Such are the mysteries of life. Yeah, Joe Montana was an average QB at Notre Dame. Had the Bills drafted him back then instead of Bill Walsh and the Niners, he may not have been a HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: I think the "speed" of defenders hitting in rugby may not be near that on NFL football so the impact may be far less when getting hit. Rugby players don't wear pads and helmets. at least 3 times that per season According to Wikipedia, Forbes, IMDb & Various Online resources, famous Rugby Player Christian Wade's net worth is $78 Million at the age of 28 years old. He earned the money being a professional Rugby Player. Wade spent the past 10 years at Wasps Rugby Football Club. He played on England's national team the British and Irish Lions. guess he just wants to try a different sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: According to Wikipedia, Forbes, IMDb & Various Online resources, famous Rugby Player Christian Wade's net worth is $78 Million at the age of 28 years old. He earned the money being a professional Rugby Player. Wade spent the past 10 years at Wasps Rugby Football Club. He played on England's national team the British and Irish Lions. There is absolutely no way he has earned £60m from playing rugby. Absolutely none. I'd like to see the actual source for that because I don't think it is true. The most famous English rugby player of the last 20 years - Johnny Wilkinson - who kicked us to world cup glory in 2003 and who had endorsements a plenty is only estimated to be worth about £16m by the Sunday Times rich list (on which Christian Wade does not feature). Basically I am calling nonsense on the statement quoted above. It isn't true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 8:01 PM, Buffalo716 said: Rugby is not like football. And it's 10000 times more complicated than see hole hit hole The run blocking schemes are complex and backs spend 10-15 years perfecting how to read a hole correctly and even when he makes the league many struggle with seeing the proper hole Then you have pass protection and learning a whole playbook which is like a foreign language I think he has an uphill battle No, it’s really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: No, it’s really not. Yes it really is. There are high level backs that are D1 stars that struggle to find and hit the smaller holes in the NFL Reading blocks is a HUGE part of a RBs game that takes years to master as a Craft and the speed of the NFL game is amazing don't discredit how hard it is to be a good running back, finding those holes when bodies are flying all around is tough to do between the tackles and Wade has alot to learn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 14 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think it is true that there are "no holes in rugby" but it is different. It is, as I said much earlier in the thread, more akin to the vision you need returning punts and kicks than the vision you need to run between the tackles as a running back. I'm glad you responded. The son of a friend played rugby in the US (Wing) - actually, still plays at the club level in his 30s - and RB in HS football (state champions). So he's chatted over the years about the similarities and differences. Now I grant, he never played DI college ball (too small) let alone pro, and it's different, but he would disagree about "no holes" as well. I don't think he could comment on how hard it is to learn to see the holes in football though, as he grew up playing both sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 4:51 PM, whorlnut said: I’ll bet autocorrect never bit you on any of your messages or texts, eh “Richard”? I say stupid things all the time. I'm a real Richard that way. But you gotta admit, yours was particularly ironic. Don't ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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