RyanC883 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Watching the SB yesterday, and seeing all the ways Samuel helped the 49ers offense led me to thinking that the Bills, who like to use a WR in a similar fashion, are likely really high on Shenault. That said, I'm not a college football guru, but Shenault is several inches taller than Samuel, albeit perhaps a bit less muscular. Thought? Should the Bills target Shenault. Can he be a number 1 WR and a jacknife like Samuel? Here are the players pre-draft profiles: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deebo-samuel https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however Edited February 3, 2020 by DJB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I still don't trust Shenault. I see Cordarrelle Patterson 2.0 tbh. I would hope we spend our first on something more than a gadget player. To me they are mirror images of one another, but Patterson had better wheels coming out of college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, DJB said: They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however I dunno...Shenault 40 time is supposed to be a 4.55 and Samuel a 4.48...am I really to believe that .07 seconds is going to make that big of a deal? I don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 We used McKittrick like Deebo. Once Daboll realized how well it worked, he abandoned it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, DJB said: They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however there is a scout that said shenault will run around 4.4. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemhoff Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Shenault was often injured at CU. His running style is super physical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I dunno...Shenault 40 time is supposed to be a 4.55 and Samuel a 4.48...am I really to believe that .07 seconds is going to make that big of a deal? I don't buy it. 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: there is a scout that said shenault will run around 4.4. I'll be surprised if he runs that fast Edited February 3, 2020 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Watching the SB yesterday, and seeing all the ways Samuel helped the 49ers offense led me to thinking that the Bills, who like to use a WR in a similar fashion, are likely really high on Shenault. That said, I'm not a college football guru, but Shenault is several inches taller than Samuel, albeit perhaps a bit less muscular. Thought? Should the Bills target Shenault. Can he be a number 1 WR and a jacknife like Samuel? Here are the players pre-draft profiles: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deebo-samuel https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 The answer to your question. Yes! He is one of the best YAC prospect in the draft and not utilizing him with all these creative sort of designs would be negligent. The possibilities with him are salivating and as long as he could develop into a decent route runner my thoughts are that he could be a star in the league. He just has to continue to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I dunno...Shenault 40 time is supposed to be a 4.55 and Samuel a 4.48...am I really to believe that .07 seconds is going to make that big of a deal? I don't buy it. 4.55 to 4.48 is a half-step, that's a pretty good difference in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Henry Ruggs or bust! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Henry Ruggs or bust! Unfortunately, I don't see Ruggs falling to 22. Kid can fly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I dunno...Shenault 40 time is supposed to be a 4.55 and Samuel a 4.48...am I really to believe that .07 seconds is going to make that big of a deal? I don't buy it. What matters more to me is that Samuel shredded Clemson for 10 receptions, 210 yards, and 3 TDs. The kid played against top talent and could beat every type of coverage in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: I still don't trust Shenault. I see Cordarrelle Patterson 2.0 tbh. I would hope we spend our first on something more than a gadget player. To me they are mirror images of one another, but Patterson had better wheels coming out of college. S henalut is not a gadget player....he is a playmaker....you might be concerned that is how the bills would use him but I do not..I think they would be making every effort to get the ball into his hands I love the player obviously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however “Shenault is much more physical”. I would say that shenault is bigger. I wouldn’t say that he’s “much more” physical. I also wouldn’t say he is “a lot” slower. Exaggeration imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: Watching the SB yesterday, and seeing all the ways Samuel helped the 49ers offense led me to thinking that the Bills, who like to use a WR in a similar fashion, are likely really high on Shenault. That said, I'm not a college football guru, but Shenault is several inches taller than Samuel, albeit perhaps a bit less muscular. Thought? Should the Bills target Shenault. Can he be a number 1 WR and a jacknife like Samuel? Here are the players pre-draft profiles: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/deebo-samuel https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 Personally...the more and more I look at all the options, the more I think we may actually draft an EDGE player in the first and take someone like Pittman in the 2nd, maybe even make a small move to get him (or the one they covet) like they did with Ford last year. There should be one or two really good edge guys when we pick, and this draft is sooooo deep with WR talent. I mean Pittman would likely be a sure fire first rounder in many other drafts (and still could be this year too of course, although I think he will go in the 2nd). And if not Pittman, there are still a lot of premium WR prospects that will go in the 2nd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: “Shenault is much more physical”. I would say that shenault is bigger. I wouldn’t say that he’s “much more” physical. I also wouldn’t say he is “a lot” slower. Exaggeration imo. To each their own. I've let it be known many times I'm am not a fan of Shenault whatsoever. I have at least 6 guys I like more than him off the top of my head. Jeudy Lamb Jefferson Higgins Ruggs Aiyuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Personally...the more and more I look at all the options, the more I think we may actually draft an EDGE player in the first and take someone like Pittman in the 2nd, maybe even make a small move to get him (or the one they covet) like they did with Ford last year. There should be one or two really good edge guys when we pick, and this draft is sooooo deep with WR talent. I mean Pittman would likely be a sure fire first rounder in many other drafts (and still could be this year too of course, although I think he will go in the 2nd). And if not Pittman, there are still a lot of premium WR prospects that will go in the 2nd. I wouldn't be surprised if they did just that. The sample size is small but Beane does have a history, albeit a short one, of trading up (Ford, Edmunds) to get his second pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: They aren't the same player though. Shenault is much more physicall but hes a lot slower. I think Josh and the Bills will be targeting someone with a huge catch radius or someone with good size to go along with great speed. Higgins and Jefferson fit the mold of big guys round 1. I just dont think Bills will go WR in round 1 even though I and most of us want to see it. I suspect we go DE or OT round 1. Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks suspect that about 20 WR could go in the first 2 rounds. The depth is there for us to likely go WR round 2 and I suspect we trade up in round 2 to do so. https://art19.com/shows/move-the-sticks/episodes/b0e0cc1b-8683-46aa-8068-193460110ac6 Have a listen. Cant recall exactly where in the podcast it was said however I would be surprised is he is slower. We will find out in a couple of weeks. I actually think he is going to be faster. 2 minutes ago, DJB said: To each their own. I've let it be known many times I'm am not a fan of Shenault whatsoever. I have at least 6 guys I like more than him off the top of my head. Jeudy Lamb Jefferson Higgins Ruggs Aiyuk It depends on your OC. A good OC could make him one of the top weapons in the NFL. I would prefer a good route runner though. The Bills are capable of developing athletes so I won’t be worried if we draft him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: S henalut is not a gadget player....he is a playmaker....you might be concerned that is how the bills would use him but I do not..I think they would be making every effort to get the ball into his hands I love the player obviously Go watch highlights of Patterson at Tennessee and then watch Shenault highlights. Same player, but Patterson is faster imo and excels in the return game. Just my 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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