YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Are the chiefs focused? First Sammy thinking about just chilling for a year and Tyreek thinking about the olympics days before the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 22 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: Reid aught to sit his ass. He won’t be the difference between a win and a loss. WTF talks like that at this time? There’s a really good chance that this happens. Usually receivers who have put up 400 yards of offense in the past 2 seasons of postseason play get benched in the Super Bowl. Why would Andy Reid want to utilize the guy who has been literally the most productive postseason receiver in the league in the biggest game of the year, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001099825/article/chiefs-sammy-watkins-concedes-pay-cut-a-possibility Quote ....Set to count $21 million against the salary cap with a base salary of $13.75 million, none of which is guaranteed.... For those who believe a complementary receiver who generated 519 yards and 673 yards along with six total touchdowns in 24 regular-season games in his two seasons in K.C. doesn't merit the money owed, Watkins noted he's worth more than on-field production. "I don't think numbers prove anything," he said. "Numbers are just numbers to me. Numbers may mean a lot to the world, but I don't think that proves what I do for this team. Me bringing the great energy every day, me being the person that I am...if you can value me off that, I think my value would be very high. I don't think my value is all off scoring touchdowns or getting 1,000 yards receiving. I don't think I'm valued like that. I'm valued off being around the guy, being positive, coming into work every day, being a professional. I think if you would judge me off that, you would give me the world." ? I Edited February 2, 2020 by BillsFan4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001099825/article/chiefs-sammy-watkins-concedes-pay-cut-a-possibility ? I this guy is seriously a joke. At least he didn’t make the usual decoy argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 13 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: this guy is seriously a joke. At least he didn’t make the usual decoy argument. No doubt! Sounds like he may have taken a marketing class though. I thought Mahommes was the Chiefs' no-so-secret sauce... maybe it's actually Sammy, bringer of positive energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Flat earth truthers are usually so stable though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre1236 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I used to be a Watkins apologist but, holy hell, this guy is sounding more and more like a delusional moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Pre1236 said: I used to be a Watkins apologist but, holy hell, this guy is sounding more and more like a delusional moron. Yet he had another strong postseason game. In has last four postseason games, he has 423 yards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 He is such a weird player. 98 yards in the Super Bowl. Do you pay for that and his first round skillset even though he can disappear for weeks and genuinely doesn't seem very intelligent? I don't know. Maybe? He's coming up on his 7th season so he's never really going to be a #1 but he can be an elite option at times. I'll give it to him, Sammy is kind of an enigma at this point. I can't think of many like him - borderline 3 for weeks that can flash like a 1 in the biggest games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: this thread is lame u sound like a FOOL Another idiot Another fool HOW many stupid fans do the Bills have? Well ... you just quoted the same guy two times. Sam Watkins is a piece of crap. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Sammy had a platform to go all ugly on his past employers -even encouraged to. To his credit, he didn’t. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) This post season, he had 14 receptions, 288 yards & 1 TD, which according to the graphic in the video above, is the most yards in Chiefs franchise history. He's right, had his ups & downs, and he never really panned out the way we wanted, but the Bills have a history of over thinking things & making the wrong pick in the draft. We traded 2 x 1st round picks for him when we could've just stayed still & taken 2 far more productive WR's, just like we opted not to take Patrick Mahomes, took a bunch of picks & traded up to take Josh Allen the next year (when we could've just stayed in place & taken Lamar Jackson if anything). Amusingly enough, now they're both on the same team. Hell, we eventually realized our offense sucked so bad after trading him away that we lost even more draft capital trading away a 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin hoping to fill Sammy's spot....that worked out even worse. So I don't really blame Sammy. Not happy with him when he talks smack about the Bills, but the organization wasn't exactly known for doing their research or making the smartest moves. Edited February 3, 2020 by BigDingus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Sounded perfectly fine & yep a nice SB..... The point that continues to be hammered home was that they just tossed him away for nothing when 2017 would have been interesting to see what they had. I hope John Brown builds in 2019 & we have a true # 1... Edited February 3, 2020 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Sounded perfectly fine & yep a nice SB..... The point that continues to be hammered home was that they just tossed him away for nothing when 2017 would have been interesting to see what they had. I hope John Brown builds in 2019 & we have a true # 1... They had a borderline number two wideout who got paid way more than he is worth. Can we close this thread already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BigDingus said: We traded 2 x 1st round picks for him when we could've just stayed still & taken 2 far more productive WR's, just like we traded opted not to take Patrick Mahomes, took a bunch of picks & traded up to take Josh Allen the next year (when we could've just stayed in place & taken Lamar Jackson if anything). Wait .... really???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: They had a borderline number two wideout who got paid way more than he is worth. Can we close this thread already? I have liked to see him in the Bills uniform in 2017. There was no reason to trade a productive #4 pick under contract, who had put up 1000 yard in 13 games in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 hours ago, BigDingus said: This post season, he had 14 receptions, 288 yards & 1 TD, which according to the graphic in the video above, is the most yards in Chiefs franchise history. He's right, had his ups & downs, and he never really panned out the way we wanted, but the Bills have a history of over thinking things & making the wrong pick in the draft.We traded 2 x 1st round picks for him when we could've just stayed still & taken 2 far more productive WR's, just like we traded opted not to take Patrick Mahomes, took a bunch of picks & traded up to take Josh Allen the next year (when we could've just stayed in place & taken Lamar Jackson if anything). Amusingly enough, now they're both on the same team. Hell, we eventually realized our offense sucked so bad after trading him away that we lost even more draft capital trading away a 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin hoping to fill Sammy's spot....that worked out even worse. So I don't really blame Sammy. Not happy with him when he talks smack about the Bills, but the organization wasn't exactly known for doing their research or making the smartest moves. We gave up one first round pick the following year and swapped first round picks to move up that current year. We did not give up two first rounders as so many people like to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: I have liked to see him in the Bills uniform in 2017. There was no reason to trade a productive #4 pick under contract, who had put up 1000 yard in 13 games in 2015. The guy was coming off a year where he missed 8 games, had 28 catches for 430 yards and 2 touchdowns. He played one full season in three years and liked to mope. They were never going to pay him, he didnt want to be here, so why not get what you can from him? Also productive is a very odd term to use. He is the 8th most "productive" wideout from his own draft class after being picked fourth. Below is a list of where he has ranked in Receptions, Yards, and TDs since coming into the league. The guy has been in the top 20 in the statistical category twice in his entire career. I guess you could say he is "productive" for a number three or four wideout but the truth is Bills fans just like to completely ignore reality. Getting rid of him was a wise move. He wont be in KC next year unless he takes a massive pay cut. Sammy isnt some secretly amazing player that the Bills gave up for a bag of footballs. There were plenty of reasons to move on from Sammy Watkins and I am glad they did. Year Receptions Yards Touchdowns 2014 45th 24th 35th 2015 50th 22nd 17th 2016 163rd 112th 136th 2017 106th 69th 17th 2018 98th 88th 105th 2019 68th 56th 90th 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Kudos to Sammy. Excellent showing in these 3 playoff games. Wake up Beane. Y’all missed the bus on the Sammy/Zay shuffle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Nah. Prior to this postseason, he hasn't strung together three games like that in what, 4 years? He just did it in the biggest games. He roasted Sherman’s ? when it mattered most 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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