PFF's Big Board (I know I know, but hear me out)

[DCOrange]

I know as Buffalo Bills fans, we're trained to hate PFF, BUT draft season often turns into the 10 draft media guys giving us basically identical big boards to one another. PFF and Daniel Jeremiah are two of the few that actually differ from the pack mentality. So with that said, here is PFF's most recent big board:

 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2020-nfl-draft-pff-top-100-big-board-update

 

And with so much discussion of the WRs (deservedly so), here's the WR's rankings on the big board (physical measurements based on The Athletic, which Dane Brugler has said is based on what NFL teams expect):

 

5. CeeDee Lamb - 6'1", 192, 4.48

6. Jerry Jeudy - 6'1", 195, 4.50

15. Laviska Shenault - 6'2", 224, 4.55

20. Henry Ruggs - 5'11, 192, 4.32

23. Tee Higgins - 6'3", 205, 4.47

28. Jalen Reagor - 5'10", 196, 4.46

31. Brandon Aiyuk - 6'0", 203, 4.45

37. Denzel Mims - 6'3", 206

39. Michael Pittman - 6'4", 223, 4.55

40. Jauaun Jennings

44. Tyler Johnson

68. Justin Jefferson - 6'3", 192, 4.53

80. KJ Hill - 6'0", 192, 4.55ish

82. KJ Hamler - 5'9", 174, 4.44

92. John Hightower - 6'2", 184, 4.41

99. Van Jefferson - 6'2", 197

[eball]

Let's go get two of 'em.  I don't really care which ones.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

49 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I know as Buffalo Bills fans, we're trained to hate PFF, BUT draft season often turns into the 10 draft media guys giving us basically identical big boards to one another. PFF and Daniel Jeremiah are two of the few that actually differ from the pack mentality. So with that said, here is PFF's most recent big board:

 

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2020-nfl-draft-pff-top-100-big-board-update

 

And with so much discussion of the WRs (deservedly so), here's the WR's rankings on the big board (physical measurements based on The Athletic, which Dane Brugler has said is based on what NFL teams expect):

 

5. CeeDee Lamb - 6'1", 192, 4.48

6. Jerry Jeudy - 6'1", 195, 4.50

15. Laviska Shenault - 6'2", 224, 4.55

20. Henry Ruggs - 5'11, 192, 4.32

23. Tee Higgins - 6'3", 205, 4.47

28. Jalen Reagor - 5'10", 196, 4.46

31. Brandon Aiyuk - 6'0", 203, 4.45

37. Denzel Mims - 6'3", 206

39. Michael Pittman - 6'4", 223, 4.55

40. Jauaun Jennings

44. Tyler Johnson

68. Justin Jefferson - 6'3", 192, 4.53

80. KJ Hill - 6'0", 192, 4.55ish

82. KJ Hamler - 5'9", 174, 4.44

92. John Hightower - 6'2", 184, 4.41

99. Van Jefferson - 6'2", 197

 

Isn't Daniel Jeremiah the one who correctly called Mayfield #1 to the Browns and Sam Darnold to the Jets?

[BuffaloRebound]

Jeez.  Jefferson that low?... if we could get him in the 2nd round, that’d be tremendous.  Honestly, I wouldn’t be upset taking him in the 1st round.  

[VirginiaMike]

I have not seen alot of video on Shenault so help me out.  Should the 4.55 speed figure be a concern?  At that figure, I don't see him being able to get open downfield.  Maybe that's not his thing, but it's a factor to think about.  Maybe he has other skills that make up for this item.  

Just now, BuffaloRebound said:

Jeez.  Jefferson that low?... if we could get him in the 2nd round, that’d be tremendous.  Honestly, I wouldn’t be upset taking him in the 1st round.  

I heard that, right now, he's got a 3rd round grade, but depending upon the underwear olympics (aka the Combine) he could move up or down a round.

[DCOrange]

3 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said:

I have not seen alot of video on Shenault so help me out.  Should the 4.55 speed figure be a concern?  At that figure, I don't see him being able to get open downfield.  Maybe that's not his thing, but it's a factor to think about.  Maybe he has other skills that make up for this item.  

I heard that, right now, he's got a 3rd round grade, but depending upon the underwear olympics (aka the Combine) he could move up or down a round.

 

4.55 would probably be damaging, but I think in general with him, it's more about the all-around athleticism than it is pure speed. 4.55 at 220+ lbs is still pretty damn good. I personally don't really like him unless we bring in an established WR to ease the load but I think you can make a good case for him to be the pick despite my concerns.

[TigerJ]

4 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said:

I have not seen alot of video on Shenault so help me out.  Should the 4.55 speed figure be a concern?  At that figure, I don't see him being able to get open downfield.  Maybe that's not his thing, but it's a factor to think about.  Maybe he has other skills that make up for this item.  

Just wait 4 weeks and you won't have to rely on somebody's speculation on how fast he runs.  Not much point in worrying too much before then if 4.55 is fast enough.

[wppete]

If Tee Higgins runs a 4.47 and he is available then its a no brainer. I just dont see him last to #22 if he runs that fast.

 

23. Tee Higgins - 6'3", 205, 4.47

[BillsCuse]

22 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Jeez.  Jefferson that low?... if we could get him in the 2nd round, that’d be tremendous.  Honestly, I wouldn’t be upset taking him in the 1st round.  

I've seen him as a 2nd rounder in several different rankings so far.  Not that ranking really mean anything this early

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Let's go get two of 'em.  I don't really care which ones.

Kind of my thought, one early and one development or injury risk guy with high ceiling late.

Look for Lawrence Cager out of UGA to maybe be a late guy.

[Troll Toll]

Seeing that list just makes me more pissed that we passed on AJ Brown and DK Metcalf. We could have had both of those guys... There is nobody on that list that is as physically impressive, not to mention Brown and Metcalf can ball.

[eball]

4 minutes ago, Troll Toll said:

Seeing that list just makes me more pissed that we passed on AJ Brown and DK Metcalf. We could have had both of those guys... There is nobody on that list that is as physically impressive, not to mention Brown and Metcalf can ball.

 

You're a happy-go-lucky kind of guy, aren't you...I can tell.

[Troll Toll]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

You're a happy-go-lucky kind of guy, aren't you...I can tell.

Actually I am, but the way the Bills have handled their young QB makes me go bananas. I love a lot about where this team is, but some things I don’t know how we’ll address. It is just torture that we NEEDED receiver help for Allen more than anything else. Two of the best ones to come along in a decade were there for the taking in the 2nd round and we took a Tackle that people thought would have to move to guard instead. This isn’t hindsight either, it should have been a no brainer last year.

 

We had a really easy schedule this year and if our team doesn’t blow a couple winnable games we could have had homefield advantage in the playoffs and possibly wound up playing this weekend. Great that the team is getting better, but sometimes these missed opportunities are the best chance you ever get. I worry that we blew our best chance at a SB run with McD this year. I don’t think our schedule or injuries will be as manageable next year.

[DJB]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Let's go get two of 'em.  I don't really care which ones.

 

I'll help. Lamb and Jeudy. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

The more I watch Ruggs play the more I want him. I think he will definitely be a better version of Diggs.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Death, taxes, and the OP shilling for PFF.

 

 

[H2o]

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

 

4.55 would probably be damaging, but I think in general with him, it's more about the all-around athleticism than it is pure speed. 4.55 at 220+ lbs is still pretty damn good. I personally don't really like him unless we bring in an established WR to ease the load but I think you can make a good case for him to be the pick despite my concerns.

I don't like him much either. To me, Cordarrelle Patterson 2.0 and that would be a waste of a 1st. 

[Buffalo Junction]

2 minutes ago, H2o said:

I don't like him much either. To me, Cordarrelle Patterson 2.0 and that would be a waste of a 1st. 

Glad that caught traction. Seriously, my biggest fear with him as a prospect. 
 

 

1 hour ago, wppete said:

If Tee Higgins runs a 4.47 and he is available then its a no brainer. I just dont see him last to #22 if he runs that fast.

 

23. Tee Higgins - 6'3", 205, 4.47

IDK. I will say that every time I watched a Clemson game this year I came away wanting Justyn Ross instead of Higgins. Being in NY instead of Carolina this fall limited my viewing options though. 

[Estro]

23 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The more I watch Ruggs play the more I want him. I think he will definitely be a better version of Diggs.

Incredibly fast so I think he'll have his fair share of splash plays, but his hands aren't great and his route running isn't great.  It'd be tough for me to draft a WR in the 1st round that doesn't have great hands.  He also gets knicked up a lot, he's built wiry almost like Marquise Goodwin, and those type of bodies tend to get banged up in the NFL

[Estro]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Glad that caught traction. Seriously, my biggest fear with him as a prospect. 
 

 

IDK. I will say that every time I watched a Clemson game this year I came away wanting Justyn Ross instead of Higgins. Being in NY instead of Carolina this fall limited my viewing options though. 

I compared Shenault to Patterson in last weeks Mel Kiper mock draft thread, I guess I'm no the only one who doesn't really see a refined WR in Shenault.