MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/studs-and-duds-market-value-buys-in-2020-nfl-free-agency Notables - I would do BOTH these at these assigned values A.J. GREEN, WR Projected average per year salary: $9.1 million YANNICK NGAKOUE, DE Projected average per year salary: $17.1 million Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I don’t like the idea of calling anyone a dud. Feelings are involved here. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I will take those two signings along with Hooper :). Then this draft I just did on their site 22 Laviska Shenault Jr., WR Colorado 54 Joshua Uche, EDGE Michigan 86 Tyler Biadasz, IOL Wisconsin 118 Raequan Williams, IDL Michigan State 137 Chase Lucas , CB Arizona State 149 Michael Onwenu, IOL Michigan 168 Lamical Perine, RB Florida 181 Scott Frantz , OT Kansas State 187 Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB Appalachian State 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Don’t like the idea of taking Green. A little too late in his career and far too often injured. This is the draft to get multiple WR’s if there ever was one. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Bleedbuffaloblue said: Don’t like the idea of taking Green. A little too late in his career and far too often injured. This is the draft to get multiple WR’s if there ever was one. Sign AJ Green to a 2 year 18M deal Draft 2 WRs 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I would be guessing Green signs a 1 yr deal around $13M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sign AJ Green to a 2 year 18M deal Draft 2 WRs How many WR’s are you going to have on the roster? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, teef said: I don’t like the idea of calling anyone a dud. Feelings are involved here. that's kind of a dud take 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Just now, Bleedbuffaloblue said: How many WR’s are you going to have on the roster? We have 2 legit NFL ones right now. AJ Green adds 3. My 1st round WR adds 4 My Later WR makes it maybe 5 or to the PS if he cannot beat out what is on the roster So 6 like ALWAYS Need 90 players to get to camp Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: We have 2 legit NFL ones right now. AJ Green adds 3. My 1st round WR adds 4 My Later WR makes it maybe 5 or to the PS if he cannot beat out what is on the roster So 6 like ALWAYS Need 90 players to get to camp I think it depends on where Roberts sits. I tend to think of him as just ST. He can’t be higher than 6 (or 7). I would be totally fine if Roberts, Brown and Beasley are the only guys back from last year. McKenzie or Duke can be 5 or 6. Anyway you slice it though you need 2 to 3 more including a number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/studs-and-duds-market-value-buys-in-2020-nfl-free-agency Notables - I would do BOTH these at these assigned values A.J. GREEN, WR Projected average per year salary: $9.1 million YANNICK NGAKOUE, DE Projected average per year salary: $17.1 million On Ngakoue, I have no clue why anyone thinks he is getting anything less than 19 or 20 million dollars a year. Frank Clark got 20 million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Trey Flowers got 18 Million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Ngaekou is younger than both those players, and is more productive than both of those players. Why would a younger, more productive player, on a larger salary cap suddenly get less money? It doesnt make any sense. Logic and inflation would tell you his Projected salary shouldnt be anything under 22 million dollars a year. And if teams get into a bidding war he will be the highest paid edge rusher, 3-4 or 4-3 in the league, easy. Its fun to talk about Ngaekou, Cooper, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. But once the Bills pay White, Milano, Dawkins and Poyer those guys will not be in play, 82 Million goes away relatively quickly when you have to pay your own players, and the Bills have to, this year and for the next few years. Bills fans better get more acquainted with the second and third level of free agents, because I would be amazed if Beane gave out a 20 million dollar contract to a guy who has never been in the building. Edited January 27, 2020 by thenorthremembers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: On Ngakoue, I have no clue why anyone thinks he is getting anything less than 19 or 20 million dollars a year. Frank Clark got 20 million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Trey Flowers got 18 Million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Ngaekou is younger than both those players, and is more productive than both of those players. Why would a younger, more productive player, on a larger salary cap suddenly get less money? It doesnt make any sense. Logic and inflation would tell you his Projected salary shouldnt be anything under 22 million dollars a year. And if teams get into a bidding war he will be the highest paid edge rusher, 3-4 or 4-3 in the league, easy. Its fun to talk about Ngaekou, Cooper, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. But once the Bills pay White, Milano, Dawkins and Poyer those guys will not be in play, 82 Million goes away relatively quickly when you have to pay your own players, and the Bills have to, this year and for the next few years. Bills fans better get more acquainted with the second and third level of free agents, because I would be amazed if Beane gave out a 20 million dollar contract to a guy who has never been in the building. agreed..although they could splash on a high priced guy and front load it simply while they have allen on his rookie deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I would be guessing Green signs a 1 yr deal around $13M Perfect. We aren’t spending to the cap this year imo. Might as well pay big on one and two year deals, which is this teams best window to win, before allen gets paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, ogham26 said: agreed..although they could splash on a high priced guy and front load it simply while they have allen on his rookie deal Potentially, but keep in mind they will need carry over cap for guys like Tremaine as well. They will need to front load White, Dakwins, and Milano, because as sickening as it sounds if the cap gets to 224 million Allen's 5th year option may end up being around 34 million dollars if QB's keep getting contracts like they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: On Ngakoue, I have no clue why anyone thinks he is getting anything less than 19 or 20 million dollars a year. Frank Clark got 20 million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Trey Flowers got 18 Million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Ngaekou is younger than both those players, and is more productive than both of those players. Why would a younger, more productive player, on a larger salary cap suddenly get less money? It doesnt make any sense. Logic and inflation would tell you his Projected salary shouldnt be anything under 22 million dollars a year. And if teams get into a bidding war he will be the highest paid edge rusher, 3-4 or 4-3 in the league, easy. Its fun to talk about Ngaekou, Cooper, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. But once the Bills pay White, Milano, Dawkins and Poyer those guys will not be in play, 82 Million goes away relatively quickly when you have to pay your own players, and the Bills have to, this year and for the next few years. Bills fans better get more acquainted with the second and third level of free agents, because I would be amazed if Beane gave out a 20 million dollar contract to a guy who has never been in the building. The biggest free agent signing will be re-signing Shaq imo. He won't cost anything near Ngouke and will let the Bills extend some of their own. I think they sign a FA RB (Breida or Jordan Howard), a WR (Perriman or someone similar), and a DT to be backup to Oliver. I believe Beane will fill enough holes thru FA to draft BPA in first round but pick a WR, DE, or CB with first pick. I'm leaning WR in first but if they can upgrade either Murphy or Wallace I think Beane will go that route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its fun to talk about Ngaekou, Cooper, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. But once the Bills pay White, Milano, Dawkins and Poyer those guys will not be in play, 82 Million goes away relatively quickly when you have to pay your own players, and the Bills have to, this year and for the next few years. Im not necessarily saying they should, but they could sign Hooper (whom I would prefer to Henry) if they wanted.. He would probably be around $10Mil per year and would be an upgrade on Kroft who would be let go .( saving $5M per year).. I agree though that Ngakoue seems a bit of a pipe dream... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: On Ngakoue, I have no clue why anyone thinks he is getting anything less than 19 or 20 million dollars a year. Frank Clark got 20 million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Trey Flowers got 18 Million last year on a 188.2 million dollar cap Ngaekou is younger than both those players, and is more productive than both of those players. Why would a younger, more productive player, on a larger salary cap suddenly get less money? It doesnt make any sense. Logic and inflation would tell you his Projected salary shouldnt be anything under 22 million dollars a year. And if teams get into a bidding war he will be the highest paid edge rusher, 3-4 or 4-3 in the league, easy. Its fun to talk about Ngaekou, Cooper, Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. But once the Bills pay White, Milano, Dawkins and Poyer those guys will not be in play, 82 Million goes away relatively quickly when you have to pay your own players, and the Bills have to, this year and for the next few years. Bills fans better get more acquainted with the second and third level of free agents, because I would be amazed if Beane gave out a 20 million dollar contract to a guy who has never been in the building. they can sign anyone they want. Cap is not an issue never is an issue so they can easily sign Him, Hooper, Cooper if they really wanted too. the reality is the Cap GOES UP on AVG 10M every year. Yeah there is room to do what they want also be innovative (other owners will be pissed) but tell UFA you will put a no Franchise Tag clause for a smaller AVV essentially the player buying their UFA Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Why do so many people say we will not sign anyone but 2-3rd tier free agents? What is the point of all this cap space if we use it on just our own plus some lower level free agents. This roster has a ton of good 2-3rd level guys. If we have $90M in cap and our QB is on his rookie contract we better sign a couple top level guys. That is what this team needs to get over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Why do so many people say we will not sign anyone but 2-3rd tier free agents? What is the point of all this cap space if we use it on just our own plus some lower level free agents. This roster has a ton of good 2-3rd level guys. If we have $90M in cap and our QB is on his rookie contract we better sign a couple top level guys. That is what this team needs to get over the hump. That is what they are conditioned to do. the reality is that isn’t the Bills anymore. They can quote the sign your own stuff but this FO did make Mitch Morse the Highest Paid Center. And gave a one dimensional DT 10M AVV. who also were in on AB and OBJ trades knowing they both would have come with a nice new contract. Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Why do so many people say we will not sign anyone but 2-3rd tier free agents? What is the point of all this cap space if we use it on just our own plus some lower level free agents. This roster has a ton of good 2-3rd level guys. If we have $90M in cap and our QB is on his rookie contract we better sign a couple top level guys. That is what this team needs to get over the hump. Im questioning whether they are going to sign guys at $18M to $20M a year.... It seems contrary to what Beane says.. although he has been known to not always practice what he preaches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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