Hedge Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hedge Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 Note that this has not been non-peer reviewed (at least as of posting), but this is sobering. We shall see how this prediction stacks up to actuals in a few weeks. Also, note that "infections" does not correlate with diagnosed cases due to incubation periods. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I'm probably only one of a handful of posters here who actually have been to the city of Wuhan. I was on a Viking cruise up the Yangtze River. They flew us from Shanghai to Wuhan which is where the ship was docked. We toured the city a bit, saw a large museum complex (ancient pottery and brass) and heard their famous bell choir play. We then had to make an unscheduled stop in another city up the river (I think it was Yichang). They told us at dinner that we HAD to put at least one piece of luggage outside our cabin by 11PM that night.They said you could put any dirty clothes inside, it wasn't important to have all your belongings in there. They said the luggage would be returned the next morning before we left the city. The reason for this was: The Chinese Communist Party began their National Convention in Beijing and ALL luggage entering China HAD to be X-Rayed. Wuhan's airport did not have an X-Ray machine. We didn't see the luggage being taken away, but the next morning lots of folks were watching as the bearers climbed down and then up the 100 or so steps from the dock to the street carrying at least two suitcases on poles across the back of their necks. True story. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) Edited January 25, 2020 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 HEALTH: China’s Hubei province confirms 15 more deaths due to coronavirus. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Cambridge biotech company working to develop coronavirus vaccine. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1) Imagine how much this is costing China 2) Remember how cheap life is in China Might be a cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paulus Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Corona virus is an anagram for racoon virus. So close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Paulus said: Corona virus is an anagram for racoon virus. So close. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Lots of rumors persist, including from China health care workers, that the real number of known infections is closer ~100,000. Canada and Australia are now reporting cases. And a 3rd one is now in the US, in Orange County, CA. Edited January 26, 2020 by Hedge 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Coronavirus: Hubei cities fearful as medical supplies run low Doctors say they have resorted to using raincoats and plastic bags as protection as officials call for more supplies. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/hubei-cities-fearful-china-virus-medical-supplies-run-200126034425456.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Paulus said: Corona virus is an anagram for racoon virus. So close. Also, similar logos... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Paulus said: Also, similar logos... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: The Chinese are horribly unimaginative. Edited January 26, 2020 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeviF Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It's important to understand that mis/disinfo doesn't just come from the Chinese government. I'm willing to bet that most of the pictures we are seeing of sick/dead people in China are not from this outbreak. There's a lot of uncertainty thanks to the Chinese constantly lying, but public health interventions most certainly make infection reproduction numbers go down - even in 3rd world conditions. I've seen R numbers for this virus anywhere from 2.5 to 3.8. By comparison, measles is anywhere from 12 to 18. Is it bad? Yeah - but it's mostly bad because the Chinese were more concerned about saving face than they were saving lives. Luckily we don't have the same kinds of issues with our government that the Chinese have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Is it bad? Yeah - but it's mostly bad because the Chinese were more concerned about saving face than they were saving lives. Luckily we don't have the same kinds of issues with our government that the Chinese have. I don't know your views well enough to know if the bolded above was sincere or ironic. I think we do now have a government that is very much less truthful than past administrations. They are terribly dishonest, when it benefits them. Recall the Alabama hurricane? That was administration efforts to lie to the public in order to save face. This administration is not above being dishonest. Not the least bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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