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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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1 hour ago, Kemp said:

 

Which side of the aisle has been consistently wrong and stupid about the coronavirus?...

wait a cotton pickin' darn minute here...

 

is this sentence alone a tacit admission that you guys have been wrong on the 99% of everything up to coronavirus?

 

oh the things you guys let slip when your guard is down.

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56 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

I have been showing posters here the worst possible case.  You are correct.  The reason though is important.  There has been a subset of posters here that for weeks now have been claiming that this is no big deal and that they were not changing their routines.  IT IS A BIG DEAL.  It is tough convincing an entire pack of fools.  Arguing against several of these opinions has perhaps made it seem that I am inciting panic.  In my opinion, I have been arguing to take this very seriously and to prepare, as opposed to inciting panic.

 

As far as 'specific enough'?  For now, yes.  If however, you wish to claim that I am encouraging hoarding and panic, you would need to show me those specific posts.  Clear enough?

 

 

you'll have to excuse me here, Bob.  can you please link where anyone has said that they were not going to be changing their routines because if they did, i must have missed it.

 

TYIA

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

I was reading about that last night.  This is very similar to Katrina, in that the federal government has tried to engage the state and local resources for preparation...but no one was interested because "it won't happen to us."

 

Preparation requires a contextual shift of "it will happen to us."  Federal officials tend to have that contextual shift early, because we provide so much support overseas (most CDC officials working this right now were involved directly, overseas, with SARS, MERS, and the 2014 Ebola epidemic.)  State and local officials don't have that context - their view is much more parochial.  Contrast to Superstorm Sandy, where we'd already had that context shift at state and local levels, from Katrina.  

 

And contrary to popular belief, the federal government cannot - does not have the equipment or the authority - to push aside, ignore, or supersede state and local responders.  Particularly in matters of public health.  It has never, ever, ever worked that way.  The most recent example is the 2014 Ebola epidemic - the Americans who caught Ebola and became sick with it were treated with local resources; the epidemiology and public health actions (e.g. quarantine, contact tracing) were performed by state public health resources.  The federal government - the CDC - provided advice, training, and laboratory support.  

 

Just like they're doing now.

 

...yet DiBlasio eloquently proposed we federalize ALL pharmaceuticals immediately due to private sector incompetence.......who let HIM out of the lab?.......

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Massachusetts has a Municipal Vulnerability Preparedness program that's centered around climate ∆. Towns need to craft plans on how to mitigate issues that were identified after having a threat analysis.

 

Once we get over the WuHan boogies, I think the entire country's governments and strategic industries need to work on plans to shorten the supply chain and think further ahead than just lining the pockets of their cronies and jousting for political one-upmanship that has been  for far too long. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, GG said:

Another question no one is answering, why did Russia only get 1 SARS case and only 90 Wuhan cases?

They're hiding something... bodies.

They did the same with Chernobyl. 

Plus, it's hard to get into Russia. We were going to St. Petersburg as part of a Viking cruise that we just cancelled. They have a lot of control over who comes in, and who can leave.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8117417/Spanish-football-coach-dies-coronavirus-aged-just-21.html

 

A 21-year-old Spanish football coach has died of coronavirus after doctors also diagnosed him with leukaemia.

Francisco Garcia, who managed the junior team of Malaga-based club Atletico Portada Alta, was rushed to hospital with severe symptoms of the virus.

 

I think possibly reading right found out had both on same day. :( Awful sad

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https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_35531ff4-66d9-11ea-95b0-7797f71d169a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

 

But when he stayed in bed all day March 7 and still hadn’t improved the next day, he went to an urgent care clinic. There, doctors diagnosed him with the flu and prescribed him Tamiflu, the steroid prednisone and codeine cough syrup.

Heaven Frilot said her husband immediately started taking the medications, but he got worse. When his nightly fevers wouldn’t break, though he was alternating Tylenol and Advil, he called the doctor back. He was told that sometimes happens while on Tamiflu and to continue his treatment.

Then came the bathtub episode.

When the Frilots checked Mark into the ER the next day, they were astounded when staffers informed him a flu test had come back negative. Heaven Frilot said she asked the hospital to get her husband’s paperwork faxed over from the urgent care clinic. When the documents arrived, they showed he had been found negative for the flu there as well, despite the treatment plan he was given.

“I was outraged,” said Heaven Frilot, who declined to identify the urgent care clinic. “How does it happen?”

An infectious disease doctor then spoke with the couple and said Mark was a candidate to receive one of the COVID-19 tests that have been so difficult to get, even for patients sick with fever and other symptoms of the disease.

The hospital ran the test and, after several hours, it came back positive.

Heaven Frilot said the days since then have been a blur. Stricken with both COVID-19 and double pneumonia, Mark Frilot is in critical care and isolation. He consented to being given a paralytic drug, sedated and put on a ventilator, she said.

 

Essentially, the machine is breathing for him so his lungs can rest, Heaven Frilot said Sunday.

 

More info in link for this story. Hope he gets better.

 

See a few anti inflammatory drugs. Studies said those drugs with coronavirus makes it worse. 

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7 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


The point? The hype and hysteria are ***** stupid. That is the point.

 

you are the biggest hypocrite in this entire thread. Your views sway with the wind and your postings are radically inconsistent. Which is it today, overblown hysteric reaction or prudence? Keep watching Fox news though they'll tell you what to think and post.

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7 minutes ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

you are the biggest hypocrite in this entire thread. Your views sway with the wind and your postings are radically inconsistent. Which is it today, overblown hysteric reaction or prudence? Keep watching Fox news though they'll tell you what to think and post.


 

What a pile of 49D10AA4-6A19-4E99-9DE9-4D55E4B47907.jpeg.5980508628a48965e2eb7ee4d5d6bb35.jpeg

 

 

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14 minutes ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

you are the biggest hypocrite in this entire thread. Your views sway with the wind and your postings are radically inconsistent. Which is it today, overblown hysteric reaction or prudence? Keep watching Fox news though they'll tell you what to think and post.


Sure, Jan.

Which sock puppet are you?

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3 hours ago, Kemp said:

 

Which side of the aisle has been consistently wrong and stupid about the coronavirus?

It's funny how you always type out personal attacks when they disagree with you. Were you one of the fools who agreed that there's nothing to be worried about because it's contained?

Were you one of the morons who agreed with Trump when he said  there were a couple cases in America, but by the end of the week there will be none?.

You spout your endless nonsense even when you are 100% wrong. 

https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/rush-limbaugh-were-shutting-down-our-country-because-cold-virus

At a campaign rally on Feb. 28 in North Charleston, S.C., Trump accused the Democrats of using the coronavirus as "their new hoax." 

Larry Kudlow urged Americans to "stay at work," claiming the coronavirus "looks relatively contained."

Trump told Americans to go to work even if they have it.


Kellyanne Conway said the coronavirus "is being contained." "It is being contained," Conway said when asked about a lack of available tests. "Do you not think it's being contained in this country?"

Comparing the coronavirus to the seasonal flu, Trump claimed, "We have it so well under control."

Hey, it's contained. Everything's fine Nothing to see here. La La La.

Moron.

South Korea and Singapore are doing a far better job than Trump. Trump put Pence the Stupid in charge. The same idiot who wanted to pray the Gay away. 

Trump shut down the agency that would have been leading the effort, now. Another brilliant move by the orange man. 

You can keep insulting people, but everyone who isn't brain-dead knows that Trump and his people have been spouting lies about the most dangerous medical issue since AIDS. You are easily the biggest idiot in this community. Granted, some of your cheerleaders are probably just as dumb.

Now, you can go back to posting idiocy from people on Twitter, because that's you. No original thoughts, ever. Just blindly following an agenda. When the facts get in the way you do the same as your Master. You point to the sky and say look over there.

Maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to check if it's no different than catching a cold and anyway, by now, Trump said cases of infection would be down to zero. Yeah, it's all a hoax, the virus is gone and it never was worse than the common cold. Guess you were right, after all.




 

Lies, lies and more lies. Your ignorance is at the forefront as usual. 

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