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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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11 hours ago, Magox said:


 

I lived in Bolivia, South America for some time and I have lots of good friends that continue to live there.  I keep up with a lot of them on Facebook and they are beginning to get hit pretty hard.  They began their lockdowns shortly after us but were largely spared during our wave.  
 

They have continued their lockdowns and the situation is getting dire. Not so much because of the direct effects of COVID-19 but because of the lockdowns.  Businesses are getting crushed, people are not making money. The government doesn’t have the resources of other developed nations to provide meaningful stimulus.  
 

People who like here who were once very pro lockdown are beginning to change their tunes.  
 

The reactions from governments world wide will have a far greater impact than the direct effects of COVID-19 and much longer lasting.  I wrote a thread on this back in late March making this exact same point.   
 

The virus will squarely be in our rear view mirror 6-9 months from now.  The reactions by governments across the world won’t be.  Countries like Bolivia where I happen to have a dual citizenship in, a country that I care for deeply won’t recover to pre coronavirus for probably at least 5-8 years.   Just imagine the ongoing deaths because of this.   
 

Deleterious COVID-19 related deaths by the time this all said and done will be at least a factor of 3.

 

And the average death won’t be aged 80 with 2 comorbidities.  Many of those deaths will be children.

 

Right. Hope everyone keeps safe.

 

I was very pro lockdown at first. Until people learned more about the virus. Now people everywhere should open up. And don't go to lockdown again.  People Learned much about the virus. 

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11 hours ago, shoshin said:

 

What falsehood would you like to discuss. I can’t talk to your unprovoked and bald attack unless you provide a data point to discuss. 
 

Or do you think we make progress by hurling insults at each other? Is that your idea of productive discourse and community?
 

 

The falsehoods that present data on a national level, as opposed to recognizing the vast regional differences within large nations.   It's a lazy analysis that muddles the data and contributes to the panic porn.

 

Case in point, to continue with fear-mongering, NYT this morning decided to list all of Europe as an area that's experiencing a rise in cases.  That may be factually correct, but it totally ignore the critical data points of where the increases cases are happening.   Of course the point of the hit piece is to double down on the warnings that the US is doing everything wrong to fight the virus.

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Trumps incompetence has cost us so many lives and once in a lifetime opportunities and experiences.

 

And his half a$$ed approach will cost us even more.

 

 

Thank you Trump voters for absolutely destroying so many lives and moments. I hope you feel good about your choice. 

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9 minutes ago, GG said:

 

The falsehoods that present data on a national level, as opposed to recognizing the vast regional differences within large nations.   It's a lazy analysis that muddles the data and contributes to the panic porn.

 

I post both national and state data. I'm not in a panic. 

 

You said I presented falsehoods. Let's go to the post, not this vagueness. 

 

9 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Case in point, to continue with fear-mongering, NYT this morning decided to list all of Europe as an area that's experiencing a rise in cases.  That may be factually correct, but it totally ignore the critical data points of where the increases cases are happening.   Of course the point of the hit piece is to double down on the warnings that the US is doing everything wrong to fight the virus.

 

That's the NY Times, not me. 

 

This is all a shift: If you want to call me names, that's your prerogative but it's not raising the dialog here. If you want to talk data, let's be specific and hash it out. 

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Absolute scum - but what would you expect from the most corrupt administration and political party of our lifetime?

 

 

Trump got $1.75 billion into the COVID relief bill to keep the FBI headquarters where it is to help his hotel.  
 

Now Republicans got caught allowing this.

 

“Top Senate Republicans immediately began distancing themselves from the provision after it was made public, saying they weren’t sure why the White House repeatedly insisted on putting it in the bill.”


New Senate GOP coronavirus bill includes unrelated White House demand for FBI headquarters money
 

 

 

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Just now, shoshin said:

 

I post both national and state data. I'm not in a panic. 

 

You said I presented falsehoods. Let's go to the post, not this vagueness. 

 

 

That's the NY Times, not me. 

 

This is all a shift: If you want to call me names, that's your prerogative but it's not raising the dialog here. If you want to talk data, let's be specific and hash it out. 

 

You follow them in lockstep.  Your falsehood was dismissing the notion that viral propagation would be different in the US because it is composed of 50 semi-autonomous states across a huge land mass, trying to compare smaller homogeneous European countries to the entire US, dismissing Sweden as a sample case (in part because Stockholm was a small city).  Should I go on?

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8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Absolute scum - but what would you expect from the most corrupt administration and political party of our lifetime?

 

 

Trump got $1.75 billion into the COVID relief bill to keep the FBI headquarters where it is to help his hotel.  
 

Now Republicans got caught allowing this.

 

“Top Senate Republicans immediately began distancing themselves from the provision after it was made public, saying they weren’t sure why the White House repeatedly insisted on putting it in the bill.”


New Senate GOP coronavirus bill includes unrelated White House demand for FBI headquarters money
 

 

 

man , you really are slow..

 

1) I hope he does keep the FBI downtown..it where it belongs. 

2) Of course it does not belong in a any kind of stimulus, relief bill...just as none of these did..shocking i say shocking!

 

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Our auditors dug deeply into McConnell’s Senate bill and compared it to Pelosi’s House bill. While half the nation was “sheltered in place,” here’s what lawmakers — in both parties — considered “essential spending” for coronavirus recovery:

$25 million in the Senate bill went to the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington, D.C. During the past ten years, the center received $68.3 million in federal grants (2010-2019). The Kennedy Center has total assets of $557 million. The Pelosi bill earmarked $35 million.

  • $75 million in the Senate bill funded the Corporation For Public Broadcasting. Why do National Public Radio and Big Bird get a coronavirus subsidy? The Pelosi bill allocated $300 million.
  • $1.2 billion in the Pelosi bill to require airlines to purchase expensive “renewable” jet fuel. It was $200 million per year in grants (2021-2026) to “develop, transport, and store sustainable aviation fuels that would reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.” The Senate bill eliminated this provision.

 

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3)  there are prolly 30 other hotels with 1/4 mile of JEH building now.

4) The whole rest of the government is down there... at best maybe has a , i dunno , a 6% impact on traveling bureaucrats.

5) At least 4 years away from any building being built

6) you are an idiot 

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7 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

Jack/Twitter just Doesn't GAF.

 

They clearly have made a decision that they will plow forward with what they want to do.  I hope to god they get what's coming to them sooner rather than later.

well, they best not be censoring these docs

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2702101/hot-doctors-are-posting-bikini-pics-after-a-study-said-that-they-were-unprofessional?utm_campaign=Newsletter 7%2F28%2F2020 (THma8p)&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Klaviyo - Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJwbGVuem1kMUBnbWFpbC5jb20iLCAia2xfY29tcGFueV9pZCI6ICJodnRKQW0ifQ%3D%3D

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