Magox Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 hours ago, GG said: WSJ has the guts to report something many have been saying for months. That truly was an exhaustive and devastating investigative account. @plenzmd1 You May find this interesting. Lots of things in there that were new to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magox said: That truly was an exhaustive and devastating investigative account. @plenzmd1 You May find this interesting. Lots of things in there that were new to me. It was so painful to read that. NY repeated all of Italy's mistakes. That should have been a top story across the US today. Edited June 12, 2020 by GG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Yesterday, Thursday, not a single state registered triple digit Covid 19 deaths....and 40 states were at twenty five or below and as has been customary approximately 10 of those states had zero. I continue to maintain that deaths is all that really matters, and they’re on a steady decline and have been for well over a month. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, GG said: It was so painful to read that. NY repeated all of Italy's mistakes. That should have been a top story across the US today. what if they weren't "mistakes" sounds more like planned incompetence to maximize fear and death in 2 very specific locations which could then be used to dictate global policy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, spartacus said: what if they weren't "mistakes" sounds more like planned incompetence to maximize fear and death in 2 very specific locations which could then be used to dictate global policy That's a bridge too far. What happened is plain old fashioned incompetence, perpetrated by perpetually incompetent officials who will never be held to account because their intentions are "good" and more importantly, they look and sound good on TV. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, spartacus said: what if they weren't "mistakes" sounds more like planned incompetence to maximize fear and death in 2 very specific locations which could then be used to dictate global policy Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Hey now Nate Silver confirming what I said yesterday: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Rick Scott Op-Ed in NYPost. Good Read https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/andrew-cuomos-sad-bid-to-blame-florida-for-new-yorks-mismanagement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I And I know someone is going to post increases in Arizona in hospitalizations. Everyone is watching Arizona (like they did Florida spring breakers and Ozark pool parties). I've seen the numbers. 77% capacity is normal. And 30 percent are Covid related. No one was going to hospitals 6 weeks ago. Which explains a lot of those increases. I would love to see those numbers ..do you have a link or remember where you saw them? 1 hour ago, GG said: That's a bridge too far. What happened is plain old fashioned incompetence, perpetrated by perpetually incompetent officials who will never be held to account because their intentions are "good" and more importantly, they look and sound good on TV. man, is Cuomo ever getting that love. How i have grown to really dislike that dude. In more news of insanity, daughter just recieved an email fro the president of her school...small liberal arts school in Ohio ..Denison University. Schools opening up two weeks earlier, going through Thanksgiving, not back to mid January. OKay, i can understand that reasoning...think it too early to make the call of 2nd wave quite yet...but I get it. What i don't get is dining halls will all be closed, take out only. Mind you, Denison is 100% on campus living, and only a portion of seniors actually have "apartment" style dorms with a small kitchen in them. 90% of students in traditional dorm rooms. WTF? Even better..all classes are to held outside whenever possible? My daughter is in a science based major...2 labs scheduled for this fall...how in the hell is that gunna work. Cant wait to to see how they enforce parties. No off campus housing, no real bars in town... parties in dorms is the social gatherings they do...they shut that down what is the point to going to school? All this and the overwhelming numbers show almost zero risk to college age kids Edited June 12, 2020 by plenzmd1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I would love to see those numbers ..do you have a link or remember where you saw them? man, is Cuomo ever getting that love. How i have grown to really dislike that dude. In more news of insanity, daughter just recieved an email fro the president of her school...small liberal arts school in Ohio ..Denison University. Schools opening up two weeks earlier, going through Thanksgiving, not back to mid January. OKay, i can understand that reasoning...think it too early to make the call of 2nd wave quite yet...but I get it. What i don't get is dining halls will all be closed, take out only. Mind you, Denison is 100% on campus living, and only a portion of seniors actually have "apartment" style dorms with a small kitchen in them. 90% of students in traditional dorm rooms. WTF? Even better..all classes are to held outside whenever possible? My daughter is in a science based major...2 labs scheduled for this fall...how in the hell is that gunna work. Cant wait to to see how they enforce parties. No off campus housing, no real bars in town... parties in dorms is the social gatherings they do...they shut that down what is the point to going to school? All this and the overwhelming numbers show almost zero risk to college age kids Dude. It’s practically Ebola. Keep up. If they don’t do these little things, everyone will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Hey now Nate Silver confirming what I said yesterday: Right. Just think the Chinese virus slow to start building up. But middle to high cases picks up speed quick. https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci-says-asymptomatic-coronavirus-transmission-is-possible-following-who-statement-that-was-not-correct Fauci says asymptomatic coronavirus transmission is possible following WHO confusion By Madeline Farber | Fox News Facebook Twitter Flipboard Comments Print Email Fox News Flash top headlines for June 10 Fox News Flash top headlines are here. Check out what's clicking on Foxnews.com. A statement from a World Health Organization (WHO) official this week about coronavirus transmission by asymptomatic individuals being “very rare” was “not correct,” said America’s leading infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci. “We know from epidemiological studies they can transmit to someone who is uninfected even when they're without symptoms," Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Wednesday. "So to make a statement to say that's a rare event was not correct." FAUCI WARNS THAT CORONAVIRUS REOPENINGS 'DOESN’T MEAN ALL BETS ARE OFF' Fauci’s remarks come after comments made on Monday by Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, a WHO infectious disease epidemiologist, caused mass confusion. At a news briefing, she said that the spread of coronavirus by people not showing symptoms "appears to be rare.” “We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing – they are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward, it’s very rare,” Van Kerkhove said at the time. “Much of that is not published in the literature.” Video “We’re constantly looking at this data, and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question,” she added. “It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) What’s Trump hiding now? Trump administration won’t say who got $511 billion in taxpayer-backed coronavirus loans See? Rich, white, privileged people loot, too. Thanks Trump voters! Edited June 12, 2020 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Things getting really bad in Florida for new cases. The last three days have been 1371, 1698 and today 1902. The trend clearly shows it's going to continue going higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: I would love to see those numbers ..do you have a link or remember where you saw them? https://ktar.com/story/3249719/azdhs-covid-19-hospitalizations-up-but-most-beds-in-use-by-other-patients/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Right. Just think the Chinese virus slow to start building up. But middle to high cases picks up speed quick. https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauci-says-asymptomatic-coronavirus-transmission-is-possible-following-who-statement-that-was-not-correct Fauci says asymptomatic coronavirus transmission is possible following WHO confusion By Madeline Farber | Fox News Facebook Twitter Flipboard Comments Print Email Fox News Flash top headlines for June 10 Fox News Flash top headlines are here. Check out what's clicking on Foxnews.com. A statement from a World Health Organization (WHO) official this week about coronavirus transmission by asymptomatic individuals being “very rare” was “not correct,” said America’s leading infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci. “We know from epidemiological studies they can transmit to someone who is uninfected even when they're without symptoms," Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Wednesday. "So to make a statement to say that's a rare event was not correct." FAUCI WARNS THAT CORONAVIRUS REOPENINGS 'DOESN’T MEAN ALL BETS ARE OFF' Fauci’s remarks come after comments made on Monday by Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, a WHO infectious disease epidemiologist, caused mass confusion. At a news briefing, she said that the spread of coronavirus by people not showing symptoms "appears to be rare.” “We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing – they are following asymptomatic cases, they are following contacts and they are not finding secondary transmission onward, it’s very rare,” Van Kerkhove said at the time. “Much of that is not published in the literature.” Video “We’re constantly looking at this data, and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question,” she added. “It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.” Try and find this interview from 60 Minutes on March 9th anywhere on the internet On YouTube, search "Fauci 60 Minutes March 8 no masks" or something like that; notice the blue information alert fact check screen that comes up at the top. Edited June 12, 2020 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Things getting really bad in Florida for new cases. The last three days have been 1371, 1698 and today 1902. The trend clearly shows it's going to continue going higher. very strange definition of "really bad" deaths trending down under 20/ day for last week sure looks like a crisis https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429 over 200,000 tested to NOT have the virus per week https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429 covid hospital visits continue to decline no threat of overwhelming health care facilities https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Quick everyone, jump to Florida, now that Texas showed improvement in day to day numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) I thought the whole idea was more testing, which would discover more cases as we move toward herd immunity? I thought overwhelming the hospitals is what would be bad, not necessarily testing positive for COVID-19/antibodies (unless it landed you in the hospital)? Edited June 12, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I thought the whole idea was more testing, which would discover more cases as we move toward herd immunity? I thought overwhelming the hospitals is what would be bad, not necessarily testing positive for COVID-19/antibodies (unless it landed you in the hospital)? That is correct, but there is a concern in AZ & TX about increasing hospitalizations. However, they seem to be managing it well so far, and most importantly the mortality rate is very low given the cases & hospitalizations. We're not seeing the ***** show that was you know where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, GG said: That is correct, but there is a concern in AZ & TX about increasing hospitalizations. However, they seem to be managing it well so far, and most importantly the mortality rate is very low given the cases & hospitalizations. We're not seeing the ***** show that was you know where. So you're saying we need to move those two ships again? Not again? I could barely stomach the non-stop coverage of the one slowly creeping into New York harbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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