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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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4 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

At least this is an honest answer I can work with.  Thank you.  

 

I genuinely don't understand how you can see that pattern of behavior and not have some alarm bells going off.  And it's not like this is a novel, radical concept.  Many people have seen this same pattern of behavior and independently came to this conclusion. 

 

His behavior has at times been downright appalling when considering the level of decorum expected of the POTUS, both nationally and internationally.  


False.
 

You didn’t independently come to this conclusion. It was drip fed into your addled brain by a combative and controlled media complex who has spent the last four years trying to destroy the man (after they got rich creating him of course). 
 

You’re basing your analysis entirely on emotion. Not logic. That’s why they own you. And that’s why you’re making a giant ass out of yourself today. 

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2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Did you bring any fish tank cleaner with you today? 

The sad part is - I find it easy to believe you are trying to leverage the unfortunate death of someone into a sick burn...

 

If you tards are trying to say the "Washington Times" as worth quoting....whelp that says it all 

 

Did you look at the Germany and US graphs? (No because it is actual numbers)

 

Maybe you can use all the extra deaths and financial carnage that we will experience compared to a country with an actual executive as more comedy fodder! 

 

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5 minutes ago, TH3 said:

The sad part is - I find it easy to believe you are trying to leverage the unfortunate death of someone into a sick burn...

 

You LITERALLY did what you're projecting. You came on here touting this death as proof Trump's advice was killing people. Of course, it was a fake story that duped you (because you're REAL dumb), but that doesn't change the fact you LITERALLY wanted to leverage the death to dunk on Trump. 

 

Hypocritical projection. That's all you have left, TH3. Trump beat you. 

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https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-experts-craft-strategies-to-relax-lockdowns/

 

Earlier this month Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar called contact tracing “the basic blocking and tackling” to contain an epidemic. Infectious disease experts have never thought contact tracing could work for respiratory diseases (it isn’t done for flu): It takes so long and these infections move so fast. But in 2020, there’s an app for that.

One called Private Kit: Safe Paths, developed by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, would upload data to a privacy-protected site on cases and where they had been. Users who had been in close contact with that person would get a notification and could then isolate themselves for two weeks, slowing viral spread from people without symptoms. In contrast, simply interviewing a single case and identifying that person’s contacts takes an average of 12 hours, said MIT’s Francesco Benedetti. Worse, people can’t remember exactly where they were, let alone what strangers they brushed against or breathed on, two weeks ago.

But the near-instantaneous contact tracing made possible by technology “is one of the most important steps we can take, the infectious disease specialists we worked with tell us,” Benedetti said. “This addresses the need for speed.” The technology should be ready for nationwide use “soon,” he said.

It mimics what Singapore was able to accomplish: banning mass gatherings, yes, but not closing schools, and — crucially — interviewing patients and using security camera footage to identify those they encountered and order them into home quarantine. That severed numerous transmission chains.

In Israel, researchers are testing a similar tool to identify and predict virus hot zones. A smartphone-based questionnaire asks people their age, gender, and location as well as whether they have such Covid-19 symptoms as cough, fatigue, shortness of breath, and diarrhea. Some 320,000 Israelis have filled it out, revealing a significant increase in reported symptoms in places where known patients passed through, said Eran Segal of the Weizmann Institute of Science — an indication that the survey can augment laborious contact tracing by health workers. Israel’s case count reached 2,170 cases on Wednesday.
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If I understood what Carranza said, this SBA loan can be forgiven for payroll. So, why not take it out, and have your payroll paid for through the bill?


Mnuchin said the money is available tomorrow. 500 or fewer people employers contact your lender, you get the money the same day. Please bring your workers back if you  let them go...

Economic impact payments will be direct deposited within 2 weeks. There will be a web portal for you to add your direct deposit information if the government does not have it.


Employee retention credit is up to $5K per person.

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He wants the restaurants (smaller) to keep their employees on the payroll as these loans turn into grants.  He said 50% of the American is small businesses (under 500 people).

He = Mnuchin

Independent contractors and sole proprietors are covered. This will not be available until next week as they have to go into (bank? I missed the word) with paperwork.



Trump: New guidelines for nursing homes (no non-medical people allowed in), and recommended that the same people are looked over by the same staff.

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3 hours ago, shoshin said:

But in fairness to Trump, I don't think another politician in America would have done much better. He responded at about the same rate as everyone in America. The "lost month" people talk about is real, but it is a mistake most of America was making. If you showed me how hundreds of politicians were calling for dramatic action on Feb. 1, you could make a point that Trump had a huge failure of leadership but very few people in America were beating that drum. 

Oh I'm not so sure about that.  Trump is about Trump.  During the 2014 Ebola epidemic, he and the right wing media politicized the epidemic.  They went full tilt stoking fear, making false claims and then miraculously, the day after the mid-term elections, stopped all coverage of the epidemic.

 

As president, Trump has far more information at his disposal than any other politician.  He received intelligence briefings in January warning of the pandemic.  He has the CDC and NIH reporting to him.  He formed a corona virus task force.  On February 5, the head of the HHS asked for $2 billion to buy respirator masks and other supplies for the reserve stockpile and what did his administration do?  They cut it to $500 million.

 

South Korea and the US got their first cases on the same day.  South Korea was aggressive in fighting it.  Trump talked it down, repeatedly making false claims that it was under control and would all go away.  He called it a hoax.

 

If most of America was making the same mistake as Trump, a lot of that is because of the Trump - Fox News echo chamber.  He talked it down, called it fake news and a hoax and Fox News followed.  For a good part of the population who gets their news from that propaganda organization, what would you expect them to believe.  Trump led them to complacency.

 

Even when it became obvious that there was a problem and a supplemental bill was needed to fund the fight, he low balled the estimate of what it would take asking for $2.5 billion.  Republicans in the Senate thought over $6 billion and Democrats in the House over $8 billion.  Both the Senate and House were wrong but at least they based their estimates on past epidemics and pandemics.  Not sure how Trump came up with his wildly low number.

 

It was just last week that Trump was talking about seeing light at the end of the tunnel, easing the restriction by Easter and hoping the church pews would be packed.  This would have been akin to Roosevelt declaring victory over Japan in WW II before Corregidor fell.

 

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