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39 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

If he can solve the RT turnstile, who cares if he is a douchebag.

Exactly,  it's not like Richie was a choir boy. Keep improving this oline every year. Watch Josh's numbers continue to improve. And if we land a solid RB2 to compliment Devin away we go.

1. Ngakoue 

2. Conklin

3. Hunter Henry 

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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

Conklin is definitely an appealing name. He's gonna get a big contract, but he is the type of RT that could help transform the efficacy of the run block game. Big time. 

 

I believe the OL was at least adequate in pass pro, but well below average in the run game.

 

You bring in a banger like Conklin, kick Ford over to LG, and theoretically drastically upgrade the run blocking. That would depend quite a bit more on Ford's ability to play guard than it would Conklin, who's a proven commodity.

 

I'm still not sure where Ford fits, but if he can't excel at guard, that pick went terribly wrong.

 

 

Nsekhe and Ford were VERY impressive in run blocking as a RT/RG combo in the preseason.

 

I'm not in favor of paying Conklin...........I'd prefer to take a shot at Jason Peters and re-sign Waddle to compete or share backup duties with Nsekhe and call the position filled.     Peters also offers top 10 LT ability if something happens to Dawkins.   And he's year to year so low commitment........which is ideal for a position that is dubious to invest $30M-$50M in guarantees into.

 

And worst case......if they all break down........you can put Ford out there and survive even if he sucks.

 

Bills lead the NFL in rushing, big plays, fewest turnovers and had a good scoring team with the woeful Jordan Mills at RT for two years.    Getting a top 5 RT(without LT flexibility) secured long term in FA is  very much a luxury purchase IMO.   

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6 hours ago, Lurker said:

Just say no to Bulaga.  The guy can't stay healthy.   OTOH, Peat or Glasgow seem like good OL pickups that would fit the Bills needs.

 

Ngakoue, Hooper and Conklin are probably priced out of our range.       

 

Kenyan Drake would be ideal, but I doubt Beane wants to spend $6MM per at RB.  Sure sounds like a 'process' guy though:

   "It's bigger than me," Drake said. "The game is not about any one individual player and whatever specific accolades he can accumulate. Not a lot of people get    this opportunity." 

    It is a big-picture view that not every player has.

   "I for sure had to learn it," Drake said. "Everyone has to grow up one day."

https://www.azcardinals.com/news/kenyan-drake-wait-for-playing-time-paying-off-with-cardinals-free-agency

 

He'd add a lot to the passing game:     https://arizonasports.com/story/2231725/espn-seifert-case-kenyan-drake-nfl-free-agent-rb/

 

With 90 mil in cap space no player is out of our price range. Whether its spent is a different topic.

 

1. Derrick Henry

2. Ngakoue

3. A. Cooper

4. Best FA OL or draft prospect

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4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Nsekhe and Ford were VERY impressive in run blocking as a RT/RG combo in the preseason.

 

I'm not in favor of paying Conklin...........I'd prefer to take a shot at Jason Peters and re-sign Waddle to compete or share backup duties with Nsekhe and call the position filled.     Peters also offers top 10 LT ability if something happens to Dawkins.   And he's year to year so low commitment........which is ideal for a position that is dubious to invest $30M-$50M in guarantees into.

 

And worst case......if they all break down........you can put Ford out there and survive even if he sucks.

 

Bills lead the NFL in rushing, big plays, fewest turnovers and had a good scoring team with the woeful Jordan Mills at RT for two years.    Getting a top 5 RT(without LT flexibility) secured long term in FA is  very much a luxury purchase IMO.   

All fair points and you clearly don't want to see them pay an RT. That's a perfectly reasonable view. But I'm trying to figure out they improve this particular unit and I wouldn't mind that kind of investment in a VERY good RT in both aspects of the game. Yeah, they got by with Mills, but they had Wood, Cogs, and Glenn. I don't see that here.

 

Peters/Waddle would be solid additions and could certainly shift the paradigm. Not sure how much Peters has left in the tank though. 

 

Counter would be that Nsekhe is OLD and I must say I haven't been impressed with Ford, even at guard. That's actually my big concern here. They've got to put together a unit capable of pushing the LOS. It seems like it's become a "no brainer" that Ford would excel at guard. I'm not so sure about that. At all.

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3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

With 90 mil in cap space no player is out of our price range. Whether its spent is a different topic.

We have 90-100 M depending on who we release. Money is not the issue.  Its targeting the right players that compliment this team. Don't be afraid to spend it, make it count.

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I don't think the Bills are going big-game hunting in the UFA market...

 

But the guy I would like is Collins...I think he's a great replacement for Zo, he's more versatile, and I don't think they'll have to break the bank to get him (Spotrac has his Market Value at 8.8 per year...)...Plus it hurts the Pats if we sign him...Win/Win...😎

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4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We have 90-100 M depending on who we release. Money is not the issue.  Its targeting the right players that compliment this team. Don't be afraid to spend it, make it count.

 

 

Money is the issue.

 

Not in terms of the total amount of money we have to spend. We could get any three or so guys we wanted if that were the big concern. The money concern isn't total pool available, it is how this regime has said (again and again, and every year) that they will spend free agent money. And been as good as their word every step of the way.

 

What'd he say about being surprised if they go into the deep end? Something like that. Take him at his word.

 

A lot of people here want to play Madden and spend every penny and get the biggest guys. They want to win the offseason. But teams that win the offseason rarely seem to do as well during the actual season. Expect the Bills to continue to be Beane-esque and McDermotty.

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If we sign Hooper and hit on a 1st rd WR this offense is going to take off next year. Another good RB and a RT and we should be set.

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7 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

I don't think the Bills are going big-game hunting in the UFA market...

 

But the guy I would like is Collins...I think he's a great replacement for Zo, he's more versatile, and I don't think they'll have to break the bank to get him (Spotrac has his Market Value at 8.8 per year...)...Plus it hurts the Pats if we sign him...Win/Win...😎

We might get one big name ala when we signed Morse this past offseason yet expect us to get more of the good not great guys out there that fits in what we're trying to do here both scheme wise and locker room wise. 

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I’d go hard for hunter Henry and Conklin. Hunter is a top TE threat and maybe won’t command Cooper money.

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Hunter Henry, Derek Henry, Jason Verret, Edge, Justin Simmons are the 5 I would seriously consider signing

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10 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

If he can solve the RT turnstile, who cares if he is a douchebag.

Also, @bills_fan, are you sure you aren't thinking of the Titans' LEFT tackle Taylor Lewan? As far as I was aware, Lewan has the infamous reputation for being dirty. For example, our secondary had a lot to say about his behavior after our win against them this year.

 

However, I've never heard anything similar about Conklin. Just seems like a good player and a great fit for our team. 

 

Adding Conklin and either Hooper/Henry at TE would make a huge difference to our offense. Sign 1-2 playmakers on defense, re-sign/extend our own, and solve the rest through the draft. With our talent and all these resources, no reason this team cannot be a genuine contender for multiple years. 

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Bradley Roby opposite of Tre White would be disgusting. I think that would be a huge boost to our defense. Combine that with Bud Dupree at DE and I think our defense could take a jump. Spend our 1st and 2nd picks on OL and WR and maybe draft Josh Uche or Willie Gay to take over for LoZo and we’re looking at a top 3 defense.

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I would love to see this team sign Hooper and Hunter Henry and run a lot more of those Baltimore formations. I have always thought that the hurry up offense gives you an advantage with two all purpose TE’s. Teams don’t know what defensive packages to use and that’s when mistakes are made. 

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5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Money is the issue.

 

Not in terms of the total amount of money we have to spend. We could get any three or so guys we wanted if that were the big concern. The money concern isn't total pool available, it is how this regime has said (again and again, and every year) that they will spend free agent money. And been as good as their word every step of the way.

 

What'd he say about being surprised if they go into the deep end? Something like that. Take him at his word.

 

A lot of people here want to play Madden and spend every penny and get the biggest guys. They want to win the offseason. But teams that win the offseason rarely seem to do as well during the actual season. Expect the Bills to continue to be Beane-esque and McDermotty.

I don't think anyone is "playing madden".

 

The Bills have the ability to sign a couple big FAs and still resign their own. 

 

Nobodys talking about winning the offseason.... the team needs an influx of talent at certain positions that rookies and continuity can't fill. I think Beane will act accordingly and you'll be somewhat surprised.

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I’ve long felt that Demarcus Robinson could be a tier-2 option at WR. When he gets targets he looks good

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Right now I am watching replays of college football and rewatching the whole Baltimore season to see exactly what they were doing to get that kind of offensive production. We are missing a few pieces but we could easily copy that Baltimore offense. 

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27 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

I’ve long felt that Demarcus Robinson could be a tier-2 option at WR. When he gets targets he looks good

What do you think about Periman or Sharpe? 

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38 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't think anyone is "playing madden".

 

The Bills have the ability to sign a couple big FAs and still resign their own. 

 

Nobodys talking about winning the offseason.... the team needs an influx of talent at certain positions that rookies and continuity can't fill. I think Beane will act accordingly and you'll be somewhat surprised.

 

Also, last years team went 10-6 and lost in the WC round. There are only a few guys worth resigning from last years team. They have the ability to upgrade positions through free agency, and can go BPA in the draft. I see no reason the Bills can't go into the draft with very few holes to fill. That being said:

 

Conklin

Hunter Henry

Jordan Howard

Matt Judon

 

 

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I really don't have a good feel for who they will get but I do believe they will:

 

A) Make somewhat of a splash and get an Edge Rusher.  I expect that this position will be their marquee signing.

B) A veteran WR who would immediately be one of the top three WR's on the team

C) A running back that will replace Gore

D) More depth at DB to compete for starting spot against Levi

E) a Defensive tackle to replace what I expect the departure of Jordan Phillips

F) That they will re-sign Shaq Lawson for a 4 year $34 million a year contract

G) Cut Murphy

 

In the draft:

 

A) Draft a WR that has dynamic YAC ability and that would compete for major playing time early on.

B) Draft a DE and DT

C) Draft a RB

D) Draft DB's

E) Draft a LB 

 

And even though I fully expect Beane to very aware of the cap for the future, I do not believe for one second that he will take a cautious approach.  I think he understands that for many organizations the best time to make a run for a super bowl are once you found your Franchise QB (which we have) and to surround the talent within that rookie contract period which is 5 years.  This is going into year 3, I expect them to take advantage of this window that they have.

 

Bank on it

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16 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

That's two big strikes against Gase now.  Tanny and Drake.   Maybe the smelling salts are eating away at his brain.

 

It looks like the Cards are going to keep Drake and let David Johnson go.   Man, I loved Johnson a bunch a few years ago and it's amazing how fast he's gone from the penthouse to the outhouse.  Johnson would be a great complement to Singletary, but his contact will likely make him unmoveable ($10.2 million in 2020!   NFW)...

 

 

They can't move johnson, and you can't justify paying drake anything because now you have tied up way too much cap in running backs.  

59 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Right now I am watching replays of college football and rewatching the whole Baltimore season to see exactly what they were doing to get that kind of offensive production. We are missing a few pieces but we could easily copy that Baltimore offense. 

 

3 pro bowl o-lineman, a pro bowl FB, and a pro-bowl TE = running lanes for their backs.  Having a QB who's faster than most of the league, and jukes like McCoy doesn't hurt either.  Running read option adds like an extra blocker that you have to take very seriously because he's the most dynamic player on the field.  They also generally run the ball well in standard formations because they have really quality blocking - thus setting up play action to take shots.  Their power running just keeps gashing you for little chunks and keeps them in 3rd/4th and very makeable situations.  Stack up 1st downs and score TDs.  You'll beat anyone doing all that.  

 

I think as the league has become more and more about passing - defenses have been more built on speed.  They're built more around power at the LOS.  I do think Roman may have outsmarted himself in the playoff game too.  4th and 1 from  your own 45 in the 1st quarter?  Then a panic drive down 14-0 right after?  Another bad play call on 4th and 1... Forced into a passing game that LJ won't win.  

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34 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

What do you think about Periman or Sharpe? 


I suppose Perriman could be a proverbial Hail Mary if they miss out on other WR1 options.

 

I’m not a big Sharpe guy. Just doesn’t flash for me. We need a gets-open-early-and-reliably kinda guy.

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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


I suppose Perriman could be a proverbial Hail Mary if they miss out on other WR1 options.

 

I’m not a big Sharpe guy. Just doesn’t flash for me. We need a gets-open-early-and-reliably kinda guy.

 

What about anderson?  I don't see him getting a big payday tbh.  Id like him on a 1 yr deal and hopefully draft someone too.  

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14 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't think anyone is "playing madden".

 

The Bills have the ability to sign a couple big FAs and still resign their own. 

 

Nobodys talking about winning the offseason.... the team needs an influx of talent at certain positions that rookies and continuity can't fill. I think Beane will act accordingly and you'll be somewhat surprised.

 

 

Yes, they have the ability to sign a couple big FAs and still re-sign their own. They had the same ability last year, and did they? The point isn't whether they can afford it. The point is that their methodology isn't compatible with what you want here.

 

Signing a couple of big FAs and you're in the running for winning the offseason. That's pretty much what winning the offseason means.

 

Yeah, they need an influx of talent. And yeah, that influx can be provided with the draft, mid- and low-level FAs and a high-priced FA every five or six years. If that wasn't enough, New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and Baltimore, all teams that run similar conservative processes that include very few genuinely high-priced FAs, would never have won all their titles.

 

What you want and what I want means nothing. What matters is the methods that the FO wants to use. And every single year they say the same thing, this year included, about not going into the deep end of FA and building through the draft and yadda yadda yadda. And every single year people do their best to forget what Beane says and expect him to grab a lot of high-priced guys. And it doesn't happen. Feel free to repeat this every-year mistake if you must, but they've made themselves clear.

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