ngbills Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Expected: Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) Surprise: Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 With the Bills cap space any cut would be a surprise. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Well $20M is going to Yannick Ngakoue. Trent Murphy pays for a big chunk of that. Then $10M+ to Conklin. Spencer Long savings will help with that. Kroft helps pay for Hooper and his $10M. Then we are in good shape headed to the draft and a few other lower priced free agents. Get AJ Green on a short deal if possible, Robbie Anderson, and draft a WR. 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Doubt they'll cut both Smith and Kroft, likely one stays. Stars a big hit to cut, likely lasts one more year. Murphey think will be a contract redo involving a paycut... or he goes 2 minutes ago, ngbills said: Well $20M is going to Yannick Ngakoue. Trent Murphy pays for a big chunk of that. Then $10M+ to Conklin. Spencer Long savings will help with that. Kroft helps pay for Hooper and his $10M. Then we are in good shape headed to the draft and a few other lower priced free agents. Get AJ Green on a short deal if possible, Robbie Anderson, and draft a WR. Have a hunch you'll be disappointed come March! Edited January 17, 2020 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hard to find a kicker and Hausckha redeemed himself at end of year. Can’t see them cutting him. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Expected: Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) - Agreed Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) - I expect him to stick and possibly reworked.....the guy was solid every time he came in relief Surprise: Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) - I think he might actually stick.....but the cap hit might make him expendable Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) - God I hope he is gone Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) - Made way too much money for a one dimensional penatly machine Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) - i bet he sticks Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) - we can have one of our TE's block for the run Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) - Makes peanuts and he lowers my anxiety when he is back there catching the ball....improve what is in front of him blocking TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) - makes penauts.....was under used and should have been playing when Gore started slowing down In the end....a lot of cap space so probably a lot less cuts when you would think....if they happen I hope they happen because we got somebody better...not because of the money. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 They're not cutting Haushka or Andre Roberts. The rest of 'em? Wouldn't be shocked if none/some/all are cut. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I think the surprise is NOBODY gets cut. It’s possible everyone currently under contract makes it to preseason. You don’t cut players until someone steps up and takes their job unless you need the money. We do not. Might as well load up in the draft, sign who we are going to sign between our guys and free agents. Let the best battle it out. Once you have a good idea of your top 53 you can dangle guys for draft picks, trade them for possible depth players, or just outright cut them. What’s the rush to get them off the team? 11 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I don't see anyone getting outright cut unless we've already acquired an upgrade at their position. Now some of those names might be dangled as trade bait... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 No way will they cut Star with that dead cap hit. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ngbills said: Expected: Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) Surprise: Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) I would cut everyone on this page except Hauschka & Yeldon. Good kickers are impossible to find and Steven rallied toward the end of the season. Go with him for 1 more year. Yeldon sitting on the sidelines for Gore was plain stupid. He should've been used more in the passing game. I wouldn't hesitate to cut the rest of these unproductive scrubs. Screw loyalty, I want points and real weapons for Josh. Unfortunately Star we're stuck with. Edited January 17, 2020 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 NOT factoring $ (just performance), I would say... Cut Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) Keep Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) Undecided Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I don’t think we cut Murphy unless we resign Shaq. He wasn’t that bad imo. We won’t cut Long if Spain bolts. Also not that bad and versatile backup. Not very expensive. Please cut Lee Smith. Please cut Dimarco. Please cut yeldon. i just have no desire to see those guys in a bills uniform again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think the surprise is NOBODY gets cut. It’s possible everyone currently under contract makes it to preseason. You don’t cut players until someone steps up and takes their job unless you need the money. We do not. Might as well load up in the draft, sign who we are going to sign between our guys and free agents. Let the best battle it out. Once you have a good idea of your top 53 you can dangle guys for draft picks, trade them for possible depth players, or just outright cut them. What’s the rush to get them off the team? This^^^, it’s like last years free agency period, TC & preseason, bring in everyone you want and let them fight for their spot, no gimies any more, keep good depth, trade or cut those that don’t perform the way you need them to. Never make holes in your roster, if you do you are not operating from a position of power when replacing/upgrading those positions. Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, MJS said: No way will they cut Star with that dead cap hit. They would save money by cutting him but I don't think they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: They would save money by cutting him but I don't think they do it. If he costs 10 to play, and 8 to cut. You would need to ideally use the savings to improve the position. If you don't do that... you shouldn't cut him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t think we cut Murphy unless we resign Shaq. He wasn’t that bad imo. We won’t cut Long if Spain bolts. Also not that bad and versatile backup. Not very expensive. Please cut Lee Smith. Please cut Dimarco. Please cut yeldon. i just have no desire to see those guys in a bills uniform again What did you have against Yeldon? He didn't really play and when he did he looked pretty good. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Expected: Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) - Agreed Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) - I expect him to stick and possibly reworked.....the guy was solid every time he came in relief Surprise: Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) - I think he might actually stick.....but the cap hit might make him expendable Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) - God I hope he is gone Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) - Made way too much money for a one dimensional penatly machine Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) - i bet he sticks Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) - we can have one of our TE's block for the run Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) - Makes peanuts and he lowers my anxiety when he is back there catching the ball....improve what is in front of him blocking TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) - makes penauts.....was under used and should have been playing when Gore started slowing down In the end....a lot of cap space so probably a lot less cuts when you would think....if they happen I hope they happen because we got somebody better...not because of the money. ....very fair assessment....nicely done .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, ngbills said: Expected: Trent Murphy ($8.95 cap hit / $1.75M dead cap) Spencer Long ($4.1M cap hit / $700k dead cap) Surprise: Star Lotulelei ($10.1M cap hit / $7.8M dead cap) Tyler Kroft ($6.4M cap hit / $1.6M dead cap) Lee Smith ($3.25M cap hit / $1M dead cap) Steven Hauschka ($3M cap hit / $1.25M dead cap) Pat Dimcarco ($2.35M cap hit / $500k dead cap) Andre Roberts ($2M cap hit / $500k dead cap) TJ Yeldon ($1.9M cap hit / $250K dead cap) Hauschka got back on track- I think he stays. Yeldon is gone. Lee Smith gone. Tyler is a wild card- I am conflicted with his status. Dimarco always seems to make it ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I'd also be surprised if they cut Murphy. We don't really have a replacement. I get you want to upgrade the position, but I think it's foolish to cut guys when you don't have an upgrade already in place. Now maybe they go to camp and a guy shows he can do that and the Bills decide to cut or trade Murphy. I'd be fine with that. I don't see us moving on from Long. He's quality depth. DiMarco is a cheap special teams and offensive contributor. Not sure I see the point in cutting him just to pay someone else his money to do the same thing and have to learn the system. People are obsessed with cutting him (because he's a FB I guess?). But all indications are that the coaches and teammates love him. He's a leader and he's been a captain. From this I'd cut Kroft and Smith and bring the rest back to compete in camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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