Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I had him second after Allen. Jury is probably still not out on his career but it's not looking good right now. If I were him I would ask to be released and go be a backup with a QB friendly headcoach - Rams, Eagles, Colts, Chiefs, and Packers would be good landing spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Backup to the right Josh is aok with me. I don't think he's the right guy for the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: He seems duplicitous enough to fit right in with those self entitled and rule bending sorts over there. ? Karma might swing back for the ‘Nine Mistakes Kid’. ? Here we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They've moved away from it but you can still succeed at a high level with the right offense around you. Brees comes to mind. Matt Ryan had a decent season but their defense let them down in the first half of the year. Brees. That man has a pocket sense that is amazing. He's like the Rocky Horror Picture Show for a pass rush - it's just a jump to the left and a step to the right, a little duck, and the pass rushers slide off him like he's teflon coated. No, Josh Rosen is no Drew Brees. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Brees. That man has a pocket sense that is amazing. He's like the Rocky Horror Picture Show for a pass rush - it's just a jump to the left and a step to the right, a little duck, and the pass rushers slide off him like he's teflon coated. No, Josh Rosen is no Drew Brees. You know just a bit too much about that to convince me you’re not the type that brings the bag of audience participation supplies...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He got traded away from AZ to the Tanking Dolphins for a 2nd round and 5th round pick which is quite a value drop for a top-10 pick. He then got beat out by Fitzmagic for the starting job on the tanking Dolphins. Fitzmagic predictably bollixed up the Phins tank to the tune of 5 wins, but they're still drafting pretty high. What happens to Rosen? He's under contract for 2 more years. He's got substantial guaranteed money as roster bonuses. $4.9M dead cap to cut him. Just curiousity here. I heard a piece on some football talk show mid-season where Jordan Palmer was still expressing the viewpoint that Rosen could play and hadn't really been put in a position to succeed. The Phins, by the way, do have Fitzy under contract for 2020 with an $8M salary ($4M is guaranteed). That guy, I tell ya. Career earnings of $63.5M and counting. Look at Tannehill when he got put in the right position. He could develop into something. Or not. I thought he could become something but he absolutely has been handicapped by his situation. But on the other hand, Arizona had the choice of keeping him and building around him, and they didn't. It's an interesting question, but at this point really hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He'll be sent to NE for a conditional 8th round pick in 2031. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I had him second after Allen. Jury is probably still not out on his career but it's not looking good right now. If I were him I would ask to be released and go be a backup with a QB friendly headcoach - Rams, Eagles, Colts, Chiefs, and Packers would be good landing spots. Nah brah. The jury returned the verdict, he sucks. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: He seems duplicitous enough to fit right in with those self entitled and rule bending sorts over there. ? Karma might swing back for the ‘Nine Mistakes Kid’. ? Duplicitous? As in "lying"? Please. Where are the examples? 1 minute ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Nah brah. The jury returned the verdict, he sucks. Yup, just like Tannehill. Oh, wait. Edited January 16, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Never understood the love for the guy. His pocket awarness and movement led to way too many sacks, and he had more tipped passea at the line than guys four or five inches shorter than him. To be fair I also hated Allen on tape. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Some people didn't want Rosen because he was an open atheist in a league of holy rollers. Besides his own poor performances, I cant help but wonder if the fact that he isn't a believer hasn't also hurt his chances in the NFL. Nate Peterman who was much worse in performance and potential talent, got a lot of mileage out of the religious factor. Maybe Rosen is the opposite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mramefa Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, KzooMike said: He is as close to Nate Peterson as any QB I can remember. So INT prone and seemingly always pick 6's. I will eat a whole bucket of crow on him as I preferred him to Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sven233 said: Not that he has been great while getting a chance to start, but he's gotten a pretty raw deal if you ask me. Two terrible organizations with absolutely no chance of winning with a young QB. I'm not sure what will end up happening to him, but I do hope that he ends up in a good situation on a good team where he can backup for a couple years while working on his craft. I hate this excuse (“he was on a bad team...”). As I recall, Josh Allen played with Robert Foster as his #1 WR and Pillsbury Benjamin and a patchwork Oline his rookie season. And “two terrible organizations with no chance for a young QB” yet Fitzpatrick (age 30+ ) was able to garner wins, TD’s and players’ respect? Maybe y’all need to re-think the skill set of the poor, young QB before criticizing the team he is playing for. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Some people didn't want Rosen because he was an open atheist in a league of holy rollers. Besides his own poor performances, I cant help but wonder if the fact that he isn't a believer hasn't also hurt his chances in the NFL. Nate Peterman who was much worse in performance and potential talent, got a lot of mileage out of the religious factor. Maybe Rosen is the opposite? You sound like someone with an axe to grind. If Rosen can make plays, he'll see the field. So far he's had poor teams around him and he hasn't been the NFL ready qb some folks expected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, tcampbell104 said: i think that if new england traded for him and he got to sit behind brady for a year it could revive his career. the guy does have talent the pats offense with belichick coaching could be a .match Ryan Mallett had talent too. Sometimes you’re just not good at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Rosen can make every throw in the book...the bad side of him is he also is kinda a weird guy whose heart isn’t really committed to the game of football as his family is apparently very wealthy and he’s just kinda playing football passing the time whether he’ll ever put it together remains to be seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Some people didn't want Rosen because he was an open atheist in a league of holy rollers. Besides his own poor performances, I cant help but wonder if the fact that he isn't a believer hasn't also hurt his chances in the NFL. Nate Peterman who was much worse in performance and potential talent, got a lot of mileage out of the religious factor. Maybe Rosen is the opposite? Peterman is getting mileage out of the fact that some people (e.g., Jon Gruden really liked him as a QB - I am not thinking Gruden is saying well that boy knows his Our Father) and he has excellent preseasons.Tebow was a pretty fervent Christian and his time did not last very long. If Rosen was a serviceable QB .. he wouldn't be traded or benched .. he just isn't. Can he be? It is possible, but he has shown nothing so far. A team that he could not move that people predicted would go winless .. 89 year old Fitz got 5 wins. This argument just does not hold water .. nor walk on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yup, just like Tannehill. Oh, wait. Nope, nothing like Tannenhill. Tanny showed flashes of excellent Qb play at times. (Especially vs the pats) wrong josh is a entitled bust. Edited January 16, 2020 by Teddy KGB 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He will go to NE kick our butt for 20 years win 10 rings and be called the GOAT. Just our luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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