blacklabel Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I didn't see this posted yet so I thought I'd share. It's an article on The Athletic so it's behind a paywall but I'll cut and paste a few bits and pieces. Shaq Lawson - Joe predicts the Bills will get a long-term deal done with him before free agency. Quote... "Signing Lawson would benefit the Bills in a few ways. They would be rewarding a young, vocal leader who has grown immensely under their watch. They would also be sending a message through the locker room that it doesn’t matter whether a player was brought in under the current regime; hard work, a good attitude and production are more important to them." Jordan Phillips - Joe predicts Phillips will sign elsewhere during free agency, however... "It wouldn’t be a surprise if Phillips allows the Bills to match a contract offer he receives, but the Bills are in a good place. Oliver is a superior pass rusher and run defender to Phillips, and Harrison Phillips is on the way back. All the team needs is another low-cost, rotational piece to complete their four-person defensive tackle rotation and they should be able to make up for the loss of Jordan Phillips. If Phillips doesn’t find a long-term deal in free agency, the Bills should remain open to another one-year pact (though it seems unlikely his market falls flat after his jump in production). But, with so much already in place at the position, it makes sense for the Bills to use that money elsewhere." Quinton Spain - Predicts he will test free agency... "Spain was an above-average starter for the majority of the season and stood out as a run blocker. But it’s notable that the Bills chose to rest Feliciano, and not Spain, in Week 17 against the Jets. Feliciano provides the versatility that Spain does not. The Bills also have a team option on the second year of Long’s deal and could bring him back this offseason. Cody Ford could play a part in the Spain decision, as the Bills haven’t ruled out moving the second-round pick inside." Kevin Johnson - Predicts the Bills will give him a short-term deal... "Without any substantial money tied to the cornerback position right now, the Bills have the flexibility to bring Johnson back on a short-term deal. He would give the Bills a fringe starter and depth option, he fits their scheme, is a special teams contributor and can even play inside at nickel when they need it." He also adds that he believes the Bills will likely bring back some depth/special teams players, naming Dean Marlowe, Julian Stanford, Senorise Perry, and LaAdrian Waddle. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Lawson back, but at a manageable deal. He might be looking for a payday, though, who knows. There were also some quotes from Beane in the article that seemed to allude to them knowing the likelihood of Jordan Phillips testing the market is high. He added that they have Harrison Phillips coming back and how he had been playing very well before his injury. JP had some splash plays but also seemed to disappear at times, and also seemed to be in the game when the struggles to stop the run would happen, so, we'll see what happens there. Kevin Johnson is solid depth, I'd bring him back. Spain played well down the stretch but they may feel they have a better option there if they decide to switch Ford over to guard full-time. Should be an interesting off-season. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Lawson scares me. His comments and history here make me feel like he's a candidate for "Gets Paid, gets lazy." 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Good read and I think it’s probably accurate! Although I would like to keep Spain it would be interesting to see who someone like Singletary would want back on the o-line! Not that he would ever say in public if he didn’t want someone back. Phillips is as good as gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Of the under the radar Bills free agents, I'd give Waddle another 1 or 2 year deal at a similar salary as he was paid in 2019. Reasonably priced competition at RT. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Lawson scares me. His comments and history here make me feel like he's a candidate for "Gets Paid, gets lazy." Yeah me too!! Hopefully McDermott can tell if Lawson is really “all in” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Lawson scares me. His comments and history here make me feel like he's a candidate for "Gets Paid, gets lazy." Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I think the interesting question is how would you rank them in terms of who you want back? For me (I think): Shaq Spain Phillips Johnson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I think we’ll bring back 2 of them. Kj and one of the other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I think the interesting question is how would you rank them in terms of who you want back? Spain Johnson Shaq Phillips 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Lawson scares me. His comments and history here make me feel like he's a candidate for "Gets Paid, gets lazy." I guess you're not considering the fact that he has become a team leader? Those guys don't typically slack off after a new contract. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, eball said: I guess you're not considering the fact that he has become a team leader? Those guys don't typically slack off after a new contract. I follow Shaq a little bit on social media and I’m surprised to hear the term “team leader” used to refer to him. He doesn’t come across as a bad guy, just a bit self-consumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think the interesting question is how would you rank them in terms of who you want back? For me (I think): Shaq Spain Phillips Johnson I think Johnson is my #2. Lots of talent and I don't fully trust Wallace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 a whole lot of meh - none of these guys really fit a core player definition - some nice players, but nothing I am building a team around 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Lawson scares me. His comments and history here make me feel like he's a candidate for "Gets Paid, gets lazy." THIS...him and Phillips I would only re-sign on short term friendly deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eball said: I guess you're not considering the fact that he has become a team leader? Those guys don't typically slack off after a new contract. I'm not sure what criteria you use for a 'team leader'. I'd say Hughes, Alexander and Hyde would be team leaders before him. I'd probably also put Milano, Edmunds, and Poyer ahead of him in that regard. I'd debate whether White and Lotulelei are ahead of him as well. I'm not sure how far down you go and still call someone a 'team leader'. In short, if he goes, I don't think the Bills lose any 'leadership'. Edited January 14, 2020 by jeremy2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) I don't consider any of these "core" guys. So if they end up getting overpaid wish them well and move on. Bills should look into extending Tre'Davious White instead and locking him up to a long term deal now before his price goes up. Edited January 14, 2020 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think the interesting question is how would you rank them in terms of who you want back? For me (I think): Shaq Spain Phillips Johnson Spain Johnson Not bothered. I don't think either Lawson or Phillips would be worth the money it would cost to sign them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Sign Shaq. Put a C on his jersey. If he is the real deal, he won't want to let his teammates down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: a whole lot of meh - none of these guys really fit a core player definition - some nice players, but nothing I am building a team around agreed. Great problem to have. No one will be losing sleep over losing any of the free agents this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: I think Johnson is my #2. Lots of talent and I don't fully trust Wallace. Agreed. i feel like KJ might come back for another 1-2 year deal. He knows the system, stayed healthy, and hopefully gets himself some recognition next year opposite White for a bigger long term deal. Meanwhile Beane and McDermott have drafted a youngster to step in after KJ leaves. Spain would be my next one. I feel like he won’t get crazy money and really would help with continuity on the line. Beane structuring a three year deal so Bills can get out in a year or two if Ford does need to kick inside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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