MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Even that seems high to me because of the Starr contract and having to pay Harrison and Oliver in the near future. I also want money available for defensive end. 89M cap room, there is enough money to do whatever they want. I am not worried about that they could give Phillips 10M AVV and still go sign that top DE at 18M AVV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Phillips won't be re-signed by the Bills. This reminds me of Zach Brown a couple of years ago. They revive their career here a bit over a year or two and then go after the money. We won't be the ones to pay him what he's looking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think that's basically the plan, Lotulelei is in all likelihood done after 2020 imo...the real question overall is does McDermott value his 3tech like that because we already know he values his 1tech. I'm thinking between Oliver showing more in the tookbox than Phillips already (imo) and Harrison getting healthy it's unlikely they make 97 an offer close to what he can get in FA. Agree I think what they will do and I will talk about this in my primer when I do DTs. Let Phillips walk. Sign Corey Lugit for the Rotational 3 tech DT behind Oliver, keep Start and Harry at 1 Tech Just now, John from Riverside said: So I actually agree with Bobby on this...... My thing is if I cant cut Star (who is WAY overpaid) and put him in Star's spot at his size....then what is the point. Oliver is going to be the star of the DT's......Horrible Harry will be coming back......I would rather have Shaq I will get to this in my DT Primer but out of the DTs you see re-signed it isnt going to be Jordan, it is going to be Corey Lugit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Let the games begin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: Agree I think what they will do and I will talk about this in my primer when I do DTs. Let Phillips walk. Sign Corey Lugit for the Rotational 3 tech DT behind Oliver, keep Start and Harry at 1 Tech Exactly, and I wouldn't be surprised to see another 3tech drafted in 3-5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Top 3 money? Oof. I like you JP, but $17M ain't happening. It just isn't feasible in a defensive system where you only play 54% of the snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think that's basically the plan, Lotulelei is in all likelihood done after 2020 imo...the real question overall is does McDermott value his 3tech like that because we already know he values his 1tech. I'm thinking between Oliver showing more in the tookbox than Phillips already (imo) and Harrison getting healthy it's unlikely they make 97 an offer close to what he can get in FA. Exactly. And Harrison can PLAY , I anticipated a big season this year but the injury. I think he'll be a force next year and is a perfect model off the field. Gotta think Bills brass value Harrison more than Jordan long term , so I just can't envision giving Jordan the $ he's looking for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 transition tag 12 mil. he wont be happy but big raise from last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Let another team overpay. Maybe we get a good comp pick in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 Tech - Star and Harry 3 Tech Oliver and Lugit Compensatory Formula - Phillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 89M cap room, there is enough money to do whatever they want. I am not worried about that they could give Phillips 10M AVV and still go sign that top DE at 18M AVV How long is it $10m a year for? Do you foresee an issue with signing Harrison or Oliver ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Well Jordan thanks for your effort. We wish you the best in your future endeavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: How long is it $10m a year for? Do you foresee an issue with signing Harrison or Oliver ? No make it like the recent Beane Signings. 1 on year deal dressed up as a 4 year deal. I dont think they sign Phillips though I think they let him enter the compensatory formula and re-sign Lugit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: yeah, his numbers THIS YEAR. He's fantastic, but put his career numbers against other DT's. Totally different picture. No way we should pay him top 3 DT pay. I'd keep Lawson and draft a DT or get a FA DT as a rotational part. He was good last year too. His production in Miami shouldn't count given that for whatever reason, Adam Gase put him in his doghouse despite the fact that he was a high draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Don't pony up big bucks for him. I don't like players who tell everyone how good they are rather than how good the team they play on is. This could be another player who, once he gets paid with his last season being his only big one, track back to where he was. I.E, Albert Haynesworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Not a fan of paying a player top money for one years worth of quality play!! Would rather keep multiple DTs hungry by not paying big bucks to one exclusively. Considering that Mcd. keeps a pretty healthy rotation I don’t think Big Phil will be here next year. Unless he comes down in asking price before FA! Maybe he is just bargaining at this point! We’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He was good last year too. His production in Miami shouldn't count given that for whatever reason, Adam Gase put him in his doghouse despite the fact that he was a high draft pick. Why shouldnt they? Last year Contract Year This year Contract year Takes plays off (harder to see in the rotation we run) Not good against the run, (same as MIA). You know why he isnt good against the run at 340LBS? Because Run Defense is just as much about Mentality and that toughness, which have been flags on him since Oklahoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 He had a great year, but his career stats are streaky at best. Have a hard time paying him $17M/year especially when we have Ed Oliver and Horrible Harry. For that reason I hope we pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He was good last year too. His production in Miami shouldn't count given that for whatever reason, Adam Gase put him in his doghouse despite the fact that he was a high draft pick. I would like to keep him......but something tells me backing up the brinks truck for him when we just used a high first round pick on a player better then him isnt the Beane way. If he wants to stay I def want him......for the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I wonder if anyone has the Balls to point out to him that if it wasnt for this Scheme he wouldnt have performed like he is pushing. So Jordan point out to me a team that will give you 17M a year for 52% of the snaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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