reddogblitz Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 22 hours ago, somnus00 said: What Daboll should be saying is, "Josh had some difficulties with x, y, and z. So I'm helping him succeed by scheming a, b, and c." Instead, he's saying, "Josh had these problems with my offense... but he'll figure it out." Maybe I'm reading into this too much. This is such a bassackwards approach. IMHO. And we are seeing the results. Bottom 1/3 of the league offenses 2 years running in the Daboll era. It's nice they each other. Too bad their offense stinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Continuity is hugely important to Josh's development. As frustrating as some of Daboll's decisions have been (8 ? carries for Gore?!?), we need him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I mean, what he is going to say? I’m sure Daboll is a great guy and knows football. But he has been a bottom OC his whole NFL career. Allen definitely played a part in this as well. He’s not getting the browns job and you can’t fire him but he is the definition of settling. I would love to see a young offensive mind who would spread the field with receivers and TEs and use Allen like Cam. I think Daboll tries to make him into a Brady type. 15 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Continuity is hugely important to Josh's development. As frustrating as some of Daboll's decisions have been (8 ? carries for Gore?!?), we need him to stay. I completely understand this point but what really is the ceiling with a Daboll offense? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 i would like to see a ground game coordinator plugged in along with possibly a new Oline coach. too many times this year we just looked lost in the run game. especially when we needed to run the ball and impose our will, we couldn't really do it. let Daboll continue to coordinate the offense but have the specialist devise the ground attack. maybe then we will be able to develop an identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I guess mutual admiration is better than QB and OC scheming to get rid of each other. Josh is the one who is throwing bomb of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 1:34 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why on earth should he say that? Don't you think an OC should consider the strengths and weaknesses of his players when designing an offense? Or should the OC just run "his" system regardless of the personnel? Honest question. Not being a smart@ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 20 hours ago, KD in CA said: Continuity is hugely important to Josh's development. As frustrating as some of Daboll's decisions have been (8 ? carries for Gore?!?), we need him to stay. no we don't lol. Young QB's change OC's all the time and tend to perform better with a right system in place for them Daboll is a terrible fit here and needs to go. any OC that lets their QB throw almost 50 times in their first playoff game is braindead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 3:17 PM, DrDawkinstein said: That too. Lots of problems with this scheme if the goal is to put a raw, project QB in the best position to succeed. Unless he grows to master the scheme. Ultimately as a coach, that’s the goal. You want the athlete to master your scheme so that you can think and act as one in game. A good coach knows how to tweak the scheme to make it more accessible. Taking out the option routes, defeats the purpose of this offense, which is disguise. If Daboll stays, my hope is that he learns from his play calling mistakes, and works to provide constant rhythm for Allen. He clearly does better in the passing game when he gets in a rhythm. I know that’s obvious, but many times this season, it didn’t appear that it was to Daboll. This offense could be so deadly with better WR’s, and consistent play calling. It honestly is wonderful to be only complaining about that in the offseason. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I mean, what he is going to say? I’m sure Daboll is a great guy and knows football. But he has been a bottom OC his whole NFL career. Allen definitely played a part in this as well. He’s not getting the browns job and you can't fire him but he is the definition of settling. I would love to see a young offensive mind who would spread the field with receivers and TEs and use Allen like Cam. I think Daboll tries to make him into a Brady type. I completely understand this point but what really is the ceiling with a Daboll offense? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm Why can't you fire him? Edited January 12, 2020 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 3:16 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem I see is that Allen needs schemed routes that are fast developing with guys who are open fast, to counteract all the blitzing we're seeing from the best Ds. Or have a hot read he can find quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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