416BillsFan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hmmm wonder if he’s headed to Cleveland with his boy from the Patsies to be OC and McD isn’t too sad about it? Deleted my post because it wasn't about Schwartz but close enough. Is Daboll still under contract with the Bills? How long are co-coordinator contracts typically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Subtitle: Browns to interview every coach in the league not in cleveland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 8:47 AM, YoloinOhio said: I don’t like their defense outside of Garrett. Vernon could be good but was hurt all year. Ogunjobi is ok. LBs arent great imo and schobert apparently on his way out (though that could change with the new GM and coach) Ward regressed a lot this year but I think it was due to scheme. He’s a man corner and they played a ton of zone. Denzel Ward is a good and highly talented player, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 9:50 PM, YoloinOhio said: This one is interesting. I know he really wants another opportunity. wanted the Bills job when it went to Rex. I don’t hate it for Browns. That would be a great hire. Hopefully they arent smart enough to hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Denzel Ward is a good and highly talented player, no? He’s good. Very fast man corner. Wilkes scheme not a good fit. He’s small and technique still needs refined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s good. Very fast man corner. Wilkes scheme not a good fit. He’s small and technique still needs refined. 5'11" / 190 isn't small for a CB. Tre White is listed at 5'11" / 192 pounds - the same, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: 5'11" / 190 isn't small for a CB. Tre White is listed at 5'11" / 192 pounds - the same, basically. They are both small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Good for Jim. Hope he doesn't get it, though, as that place is an asylum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They are both small? 5'11" isn't small for a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, dave mcbride said: 5'11" isn't small for a CB. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve stood next to him and the kid fits in a drinking glass. Fast though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve stood next to him and the kid fits in a drinking glass. Fast though. I buy that about the frame (as does this profile - https://www.nfl.com/prospects/denzel-ward?id=32195741-5214-6753-6b71-7e5e98188e98), but I just wanted to stress that 5'11" is considered a perfectly fine height for CBs. They can't be too tall, of course. 6'1" seems to be about the height limit before you hit diminishing returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I buy that about the frame (as does this profile - https://www.nfl.com/prospects/denzel-ward?id=32195741-5214-6753-6b71-7e5e98188e98), but I just wanted to stress that 5'11" is considered a perfectly fine height for CBs. They can't be too tall, of course. 6'1" seems to be about the height limit before you hit diminishing returns. I had no idea how tall he is - or even if that is an accurate height for him. Just saying what I see. He’s no Jeff okudah Edited January 8, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This would be a great hire. The naysayers always want to point out Schwartz's final record in Detroit but 2 things to think about: 1. He took over a team that had just gone 0-16. I can't imagine too many good or even great coaches winning much with an 0-16 team at least in the first year or two. 2. Bill Belichick's overall record with Cleveland was not a whole lot better. When the Eagles lost Wentz a couple of years ago I really believe the defense under Schwartz was a big reason they were still able to win the superbowl. And of course we all know how great the defense was when he was here. Seems like it would be a perfect fit for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Jim is a great DC but is not HC material at all, all that talent in Detroit and he couldn’t win a damn thing. Can’t say he never had a QB, Matt Stafford is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I really don't like the Browns sniffing around competent coaches, that makes me nervous!! I've kind of enjoyed the dumpster fire of late! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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