Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 And the reason is he turned the defensive plays back to Leslie Frazier in the second half of the game. Mcdermot has to fire Leslie Frazier and get a guy that fits his defensive idea. Zone blitzing, defensive line stunts, confusing the QB just like the way they played in the first half. All of sudden the defensive playbook stopped and went to Frazier's cover two the same defense we say in the Bengals, Eagles,Browns, the first dolphin game and the patriots game in buffalo and fox-bro. If you look something happend to the Defense after the browns game Mcdermot took over the defensive calls in Miami and Dallas the Bills were blitzing all over the place confusing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Dak Prescott in the Ravens game you can see him with the playbook in his hands calling the defense. Mcdermot is a young belichick he can confuse any Qb out there but he has to stop protecting Lesile Frazier and get rid of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Defense held Deshaun Watson and a stacked Texans offense to 19 points in regulation and we want to blame and fire the defensive coaches now? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Isn't this the 41st thread on this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 We know he turned the D playcall back to Frasier or took them from him at any time how???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Lordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: And the reason is he turned the defensive plays back to Leslie Frazier in the second half of the game. Mcdermot has to fire Leslie Frazier and get a guy that fits his defensive idea. Zone blitzing, defensive line stunts, confusing the QB just like the way they played in the first half. All of sudden the defensive playbook stopped and went to Frazier's cover two the same defense we say in the Bengals, Eagles,Browns, the first dolphin game and the patriots game in buffalo and fox-bro. If you look something happend to the Defense after the browns game Mcdermot took over the defensive calls in Miami and Dallas the Bills were blitzing all over the place confusing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Dak Prescott in the Ravens game you can see him with the playbook in his hands calling the defense. Mcdermot is a young belichick he can confuse any Qb out there but he has to stop protecting Lesile Frazier and get rid of him. So you analyze this game and conclude: "need more defense." Have you had a look at the offensive side of the ball, and in particular the QB? You might find some interesting stuff there if you have a look. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Defense held Deshaun Watson and a stacked Texans offense to 19 points in regulation and we want to blame and fire the defensive coaches now? In Buffalo when the offense stinks we want to fire the DC. As a twist on the theme when the defense sucked under Rex we did fire one of the best OCs in the league.... so........ 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It's on everyone. On to the off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If you list every person in every "who should be blamed" thread and post, it would probably be more accurate. In other words, there is plenty of blame to go around for last night's loss. Not many would be immune. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Defense held Deshaun Watson and a stacked Texans offense to 19 points in regulation and we want to blame and fire the defensive coaches now? the effort in the second half was a 38 point pace. the op was quite clear on distinguishing between the good half, and the complete debacle second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Chaos said: the effort in the second half was a 38 point pace. the op was quite clear on distinguishing between the good half, and the complete debacle second half. It was a team loss. All units and players to blame. It's not all on McDermott and Frazier shouldn't be fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: It was a team loss. All units and players to blame. It's not all on McDermott and Frazier shouldn't be fired. the defense was not only not elite against winning teams this year, it was only about average. Considering the amount of draft capital invested on the defense, average results vs good teams is not that spectacular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Chaos said: the defense was not only not elite against winning teams this year, it was only about average. Considering the amount of draft capital invested on the defense, average results vs good teams is not that spectacular. They aren't the 2000 Ravens. Fire the DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: It was a team loss. All units and players to blame. It's not all on McDermott and Frazier shouldn't be fired. Actually I had zero issues with STs yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 McD was the main reason we got to play in this game in the first place. We should all be thanking our lucky stars that he decided to come to Buffalo and turn this franchise around. The second half collapse was tough to watch but it happened mainly because the opposing QB started playing like an all pro while ours reverted to his worst college tendencies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: And the reason is he turned the defensive plays back to Leslie Frazier in the second half of the game. Mcdermot has to fire Leslie Frazier and get a guy that fits his defensive idea. Zone blitzing, defensive line stunts, confusing the QB just like the way they played in the first half. All of sudden the defensive playbook stopped and went to Frazier's cover two the same defense we say in the Bengals, Eagles,Browns, the first dolphin game and the patriots game in buffalo and fox-bro. If you look something happend to the Defense after the browns game Mcdermot took over the defensive calls in Miami and Dallas the Bills were blitzing all over the place confusing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Dak Prescott in the Ravens game you can see him with the playbook in his hands calling the defense. Mcdermot is a young belichick he can confuse any Qb out there but he has to stop protecting Lesile Frazier and get rid of him. This loss is on a lot more people than just McD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I was ready to agree with you and then I read your post. We got overly conservative when we should have kept the peddle to the floor. With that being said we F...d by the Refs. This isnt little league. A player is responsable for his laps in judgement. That was a fumble and a TD. Edited January 5, 2020 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: And the reason is he turned the defensive plays back to Leslie Frazier in the second half of the game. Mcdermot has to fire Leslie Frazier and get a guy that fits his defensive idea. Zone blitzing, defensive line stunts, confusing the QB just like the way they played in the first half. All of sudden the defensive playbook stopped and went to Frazier's cover two the same defense we say in the Bengals, Eagles,Browns, the first dolphin game and the patriots game in buffalo and fox-bro. If you look something happend to the Defense after the browns game Mcdermot took over the defensive calls in Miami and Dallas the Bills were blitzing all over the place confusing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Dak Prescott in the Ravens game you can see him with the playbook in his hands calling the defense. Mcdermot is a young belichick he can confuse any Qb out there but he has to stop protecting Lesile Frazier and get rid of him. I was at the game and you called it right we just tried to sit on a lead and play preevent the whole second half. We kept rotating out our good players. Sending only four and freezing our linebackers McDermott’s time in Buffalo will be short if he keeps being conservative. Then we will need to bring in an offensive mined head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: And the reason is he turned the defensive plays back to Leslie Frazier in the second half of the game. Mcdermot has to fire Leslie Frazier and get a guy that fits his defensive idea. Zone blitzing, defensive line stunts, confusing the QB just like the way they played in the first half. All of sudden the defensive playbook stopped and went to Frazier's cover two the same defense we say in the Bengals, Eagles,Browns, the first dolphin game and the patriots game in buffalo and fox-bro. If you look something happend to the Defense after the browns game Mcdermot took over the defensive calls in Miami and Dallas the Bills were blitzing all over the place confusing Ryan Fitzpatrick and Dak Prescott in the Ravens game you can see him with the playbook in his hands calling the defense. Mcdermot is a young belichick he can confuse any Qb out there but he has to stop protecting Lesile Frazier and get rid of him. wasn’t on him fully but he WAS a major problem and has been most of the year. Growth mindset coach you preach it. Now practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Ultimately, the buck stops with McD and the loss is on him in that regard. I’ll give you that. Frazier and McD can’t sack Watson when they get a clean shot, or tackle the receiver 3 yards short of the first down when they’ve got the opportunity. Where McD needs to take a long look at himself is his ideas on offense, hiring of OC and priorities in assembling his roster. The offense isn’t good enough, couldn’t hang with the big boys all year, and was much of the same yesterday. It shouldn’t be surprising. Breaking the 20 point barrier is a struggle with the offensive personnel on this team and this OC calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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