Thurman#1 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) On 1/5/2020 at 12:17 PM, buffalobillswin said: It was a broken play that was extended due to no pressure. Dimarco was down there because the ball should have been out of Allen's hand quickly. Yeah, an extended play. Not so much broken, maybe. Also, sending an FB downfield can be a very smart move in that anyone downfield draws coverage and probably double coverage. DiMarco did draw a double. That leaves real targets underneath free of safety help on their routes. It's a surety that the play wasn't drawn up with DiMarco deep as Josh's primary target. But he couldn't/didn't find anyone else open. Edited January 7, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: No. He was lined up outside and ran a go from the jump- Seriously though, how did the Texans drop 13 guys into coverage? JA had a ton of time to throw but each receiver had 3 guys on them. There has to be some “get free damn it!” jail break at some point, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, an extended play. Also, sending an FB downfield can be a very smart move in that anyone downfield draws coverage and probably double coverage. DiMarco did draw a double. That leaves real targets underneath free of safety help on their routes. It's a surety that the play wasn't drawn up with DiMarco deep as Josh's primary target. But he couldn't find anyone else open. No offense but this is completely wrong. Dimarco did not draw a double to free anyone up; as a matter of fact having him run a go and Lee Smith a post on the same side of the play allowed one safety to cover both since neither are real receiving threats. Everyone else got swallowed up. That is horrible play design. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's ridiculous. And even the logic is stupid IMO. They think, and have said publicly, and a bunch of people applauded the idea, that they put him out there, and the defense has to adjust by putting in an extra linebacker to compensate. SO WHAT?! Then they split him out and is easily covered and never makes a play. How about keeping him on the bench and have an extra WR out there against an extra CB but who can actually make a play! The Lee Smith/DiMarco offense especially late and in OT was shocking, and stupid, to me. You can go on and on about this, but the bottom line is DiMarco had inside position on both defenders and if he jumps a split second later it's a completion. The Texans dropped 8 guys, and we still had the ball in a guy’s hands to make a play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's ridiculous. And even the logic is stupid IMO. They think, and have said publicly, and a bunch of people applauded the idea, that they put him out there, and the defense has to adjust by putting in an extra linebacker to compensate. SO WHAT?! Then they split him out and is easily covered and never makes a play. How about keeping him on the bench and have an extra WR out there against an extra CB but who can actually make a play! The Lee Smith/DiMarco offense especially late and in OT was shocking, and stupid, to me. It is these issues that drive me up the wall with Daboll and to a degree McD for allowing it; this entire play with those 2 should not have been in there, just like having Gore in the game with 30 seconds left in the half. In these times you play your best players and the scrubs are on the bench; you just give a down away or allow for something terrible to happen. It's the same thing with bumbling the time at the end of the half over the course of the season in countless games, these things should never happen. It's maddening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Seriously though, how did the Texans drop 13 guys into coverage? JA had a ton of time to throw but each receiver had 3 guys on them. There has to be some “get free damn it!” jail break at some point, no? Well when you go 5 wide with Pat Dimarco and Lee Smith on the same side you become real easy to defend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Edited January 7, 2020 by BBills88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, BBills88 said: From listening to One Bill's Drive earlier. It was drew up like that. But Allen should have hit Singletary or Beasley underneath as they had room to run. They weren’t open from what could be seen from replays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, an extended play. Not so much broken, maybe. Also, sending an FB downfield can be a very smart move in that anyone downfield draws coverage and probably double coverage. DiMarco did draw a double. That leaves real targets underneath free of safety help on their routes. It's a surety that the play wasn't drawn up with DiMarco deep as Josh's primary target. But he couldn't/didn't find anyone else open. He didn't really draw a double though. Lee Smith also ran a deep route on same side and as soon as Josh threw, the guy covering Smith left him and ran over to DiMarco. It was a stupid play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BBills88 said: From listening to One Bill's Drive earlier. It was drew up like that. But Allen should have hit Singletary or Beasley underneath as they had room to run. beasley had three guys on him looking at the video above Murph/Tasker way too non controversial since employeed by the Bills they were not open and will never be critical of the staff Edited January 7, 2020 by ILBillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You can go on and on about this, but the bottom line is DiMarco had inside position on both defenders and if he jumps a split second later it's a completion. The Texans dropped 8 guys, and we still had the ball in a guy’s hands to make a play. I said he timed his jump wrong and should have caught it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Well when you go 5 wide with Pat Dimarco and Lee Smith on the same side you become real easy to defend Actually that is a very salient point. I just see colors. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Seriously though, how did the Texans drop 13 guys into coverage? JA had a ton of time to throw but each receiver had 3 guys on them. There has to be some “get free damn it!” jail break at some point, no? It was a VERY odd/poor play call, but Brown had worked himself open. Edited January 7, 2020 by LSHMEAB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 10:18 PM, TH3 said: This is too important not to put in the post game thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It was a TERRIBLE throw and I am a huge Josh fan. He literally missed it by ten yards. From the endzone view, when Josh looked and threw, DiMarco was two yards past his one defender. It was way, way short. DiMarco had to completely stop, wait, and then jump. If Josh threw it well it could have been a TD, except he probably would have been caught from behind but maybe not. But when the ball was released he was open. That said, he did time the jump bad, and he probably should have caught it. But he's not at all a good receiver despite some claims and his 52 catches in 8 seasons. Jeez exaggerating much? Missed by 10 yards? Hardly .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 After looking at it again.They would have been better off throwing a wr screen with McKenzie, with Smith and DeMarco blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: Jeez exaggerating much? Missed by 10 yards? Hardly .... I'm saying and I would bet on it that if DiMarco kept on running full speed, and Josh threw it ten yards further, it could have hit him on the dead run. I'm positive with a running start, in the time it took DiMarco to slow down, look for the ball, stop, wait, and jump, he could have run ten yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Who was the player just past the 30 on the near sideline? Looked like an open checkdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'm saying and I would bet on it that if DiMarco kept on running full speed, and Josh threw it ten yards further, it could have hit him on the dead run. I'm positive with a running start, in the time it took DiMarco to slow down, look for the ball, stop, wait, and jump, he could have run ten yards. It wasn't a good throw, but I do think the DB would have caught up to Dimarco even if he were able to keep running full speed. Get what you're saying, but that DB had his eyes on the ball and a distinct speed advantage. Again, I have zero clue what that formation is about, but Allen did eventually have a guy open underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I said he timed his jump wrong and should have caught it. Then why are you complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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