habes1280 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The jury's still out, but he's further along than I thought he'd be. Coming into the season, I didn't think he had games like the Dallas game or the first half of the Texans game in him. His profile had always been that he could flash with the right coaching and enough development, but that it might take more time than most. His play this year showed that he has the stuff right now, he just needs to learn to get out of his own way. I'll take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: With that second half defensive performance? there is no super bowl contention happening Deshaun Watson is one of the top 4 QBs in football. At some point they were going to score. When they did, our QB responded by fumbling the ball away in our own territory, and at that point the Texans and their home field advantage smelled blood in the water. Our offense is terrible. We can't consistently score 19 points a game, including yesterday when we faced one of the worst defenses in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 hours ago, iinii said: Without that defense and the soft schedule he doesn’t sniff the playoffs. Any team with a tough schedule and a mediocre defense isn’t sniffing the playoffs either, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Any team with a tough schedule and a mediocre defense isn’t sniffing the playoffs either, friend. No? What about NO, GB, Tennessee, Houston, Seattle? They range from 11 to 26 in overall defense. I couldn’t get the link to paste but you can check it out in nfl.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: He will only be in the 3rd year of his contract, so the Bills still have his 4th year + a 5th year option. I don’t think I’d say that the Bills have to decide whether to give him a long term deal by the end of next season. All they’ll really have to decide on for sure is if he’s worth the 5th year option. Those, really, are one & the same. Do you want them to use a high pick on a QB in the 2021 draft? Go out and get someone via FA? Or, are you willing to relive the purgatory that is not having “that” QB on the roster for multiple years? Don’t extend & feelings are hurt, psyches damaged. They need to make up their minds next year and then move decisively based on the choice they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 These past two seasons were highly entertaining. I ride with Allen and hope the Bills continue to build around him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This Josh hate mystifies me. It is so irrational. He put us in a position to get to OT AND to win. He made some crazy decisions, sure, but he was both running for his life and hamstrung by conservative play calling down the stretch. This loss was a team effort on offense mostly and I point the finger at DAboll and the OLine more than Josh alone. Ridiculous. This loss was not all on him no matter what these fair weather haters that are suddenly coming out of the woodwork may be saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I find it hilarious that no one has created a thread about that single play. Or perhaps his "Hail Mary" pass he threw up for grabs while in OT in a playoff game. That is "can't happen" stuff and it's still happening from him. And then the late throws, the fumble problems, the blitz problem, the reading defenses problem, the accuracy problem, the long ball problem.... How long does he get?! Both of those plays were horrific; it was as if someone pressed the self destruct button on Josh Allen. He improved quite a bit in year 2, but he looked like a rookie in the 2nd half last night, complete with a look of panic on his face at all times. Here's hoping we don't see THAT Josh again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I prefer QBs who don't fall behind in the first place. I'm not sure one of those exists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said: Both of those plays were horrific; it was as if someone pressed the self destruct button on Josh Allen. He improved quite a bit in year 2, but he looked like a rookie in the 2nd half last night, complete with a look of panic on his face at all times. Here's hoping we don't see THAT Josh again. That look of panic you mention, lack of composure. That josh - it's the same 'rattled' thing we talk about every game. After a good first half aswell. '4th quarter josh' wasn't there yesterday and the narrative that he is winning games there has started to grind to a halt. We did stop running the football that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Josh Allen is a “Franchise QB” in name only imo...he has not yet earned it with his play on the field... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, london_bills said: '4th quarter josh' wasn't there yesterday and the narrative that he is winning games there has started to grind to a halt False. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Josh Allen is not a franchise QB, at least not now anyway. He may be a nice kid, but come on! 16 points were left on the board yesterday. Brown (6), Duke (6) & Hauschka (4)! Heck - If Hauschka does not miss that extra point - we are all celebrating a WIN right now. Lighten up, Francis! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Not yet. I like him and he took steps this year but isn’t franchise yet. Needs to take another step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I mean, he has earned a third year as our starter. But we have seen these 3rd seasons either make or break QBs. He is year to year at this point, not franchise yet. 4 minutes ago, cd1 said: 16 points were left on the board yesterday. Brown (6), Duke (6) & Hauschka (4)! Heck - If Hauschka does not miss that extra point - we are all celebrating a WIN right now. Lighten up, Francis! Hauschka didnt miss a field goal, or an extra point yesterday. What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 True "Franchise QBs" that have emerged in the last 3 seasons -- guys that, if this were baseball, would be getting 8 year/$300 million extensions right now: - Deshaun Watson - Patrick Mahomes - Lamar Jackson That's it. Early last season it looked like Jared Goff had entered that category (and he did get the money to prove it). Late last season it looked like Baker Mayfield might be moving into that category. Early this season it was Dak Prescott. None of those guys would get that kind of deal right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Any team with a tough schedule and a mediocre defense isn’t sniffing the playoffs either, friend. On paper it’s a much harder schedule next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Jury still out. Needs to grow again going into the next season and we got something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He improved from year one to year two. Why would we expect he won’t improve from year two to year three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Josh Allen now has 28 starts. He was below-average in every passing metric other than sack avoidance this year. If he's going to be something special, wouldn't we know by now? Is there any quarterback who made a major leap after two below-average seasons? Maybe it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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