Tiberius Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: If Iran's intention was to not build a bomb then why are they building it now? Why do you think they would want a bomb now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I've never been in battle, what's your point? Trump hasn't either. You don't think he is a pathological liar? Until you have been in harms way or in the Middle East you do not know crap. No, I dont think he is. Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Until you have been in harms way or in the Middle East you do not know crap. No, I dont think he is. Take care Take care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, sherpa said: So passing on a response when Iran shot down a US aircraft in international airspace supports the thought that he "wanted that war." There is no more clear acts or war than that. On other notes you have mentioned, nobody has any issues with the horrible nature of the Shah, but that has nothing to do with this. On a further note, I do not know of one serious, familiar with their operations, informed individual who ever thought that Iran was going to cease its nuclear weapons program because of the "deal" it had in place. The same for North Korea. They are simply not going to stop of their own volition. Unfortunately, that is the reality. Valid across the board!!! Some just do not get it nor will they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Until you have been in harms way or in the Middle East you do not know crap. No, I dont think he is. Take care In your opinion, how many times does one need to lie before they become a pathological liar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: In your opinion, how many times does one need to lie before they become a pathological liar? You should be an expert on this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Have they started drafting SJWs for Trumps war yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gary M said: Have they started drafting SJWs for Trumps war yet? can we get film of first day of orientation and boot camp? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why do you think they would want a bomb now? Because you claimed it, you idiot. Your words from above: "Trump came in are started "Maximum Pressure" on them and we have gone from there. The international community was all in on the inspections and stated Iran was in compliance. No reason to doubt that. Now they are building a bomb. That is the reality. A cynical person would assume that this is all part of Trump's reelection campaign. It's been building since day one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I get that folks hated the Obama Iran nuclear deal. I have read several posts talking about Obama's folly and pallets of cash. The deal included a lot of hope and prayers on how Iran would react to the invitation to 'normalize'. Over time they didn't seem to be normalizing however as their regional agitation persisted or arguably worsened. On the plus side though, it did buy some time to deal with their nuclear program short of attacking Iran. With the agreed upon oversight, their nuclear program was frozen to a large extent. Then, Trump decided to make a big splash and tear up the agreement. If you thought the Iran nuclear deal was a terrible deal from the US perspective, how does it look now after giving them their pallets of cash WITHOUT any current oversight or agreed upon limitations to their nuclear program? If you thought Obama's administration screwed up by making the original deal, don't you have to really hate the Trump administration's alterations? As it is today, we gave all that we gave and in return, we now have what in exchange? Nada? Wouldn't it have been better to keep the existing nuclear deal and to work to improve the other areas of disagreement? Except for the satisfaction of undoing Obama's presidency, what was the advantage of tearing up the agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 i can't play Kandy Krush on my iPhone for 8 straight hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: i can't play Kandy Krush on my iPhone for 8 straight hours? Probably your Russian leaders shut down the internet again. Are they rioting in Moscow perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I get that folks hated the Obama Iran nuclear deal. I have read several posts talking about Obama's folly and pallets of cash. The deal included a lot of hope and prayers on how Iran would react to the invitation to 'normalize'. Over time they didn't seem to be normalizing however as their regional agitation persisted or arguably worsened. On the plus side though, it did buy some time to deal with their nuclear program short of attacking Iran. With the agreed upon oversight, their nuclear program was frozen to a large extent. Then, Trump decided to make a big splash and tear up the agreement. If you thought the Iran nuclear deal was a terrible deal from the US perspective, how does it look now after giving them their pallets of cash WITHOUT any current oversight or agreed upon limitations to their nuclear program? If you thought Obama's administration screwed up by making the original deal, don't you have to really hate the Trump administration's alterations? As it is today, we gave all that we gave and in return, we now have what in exchange? Nada? Wouldn't it have been better to keep the existing nuclear deal and to work to improve the other areas of disagreement? Except for the satisfaction of undoing Obama's presidency, what was the advantage of tearing up the agreement? the nuclear deal was a farce. we were only allowed to look at certain buildings and certainly not any military ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I get that folks hated the Obama Iran nuclear deal. I have read several posts talking about Obama's folly and pallets of cash. The deal included a lot of hope and prayers on how Iran would react to the invitation to 'normalize'. Over time they didn't seem to be normalizing however as their regional agitation persisted or arguably worsened. On the plus side though, it did buy some time to deal with their nuclear program short of attacking Iran. With the agreed upon oversight, their nuclear program was frozen to a large extent. Then, Trump decided to make a big splash and tear up the agreement. If you thought the Iran nuclear deal was a terrible deal from the US perspective, how does it look now after giving them their pallets of cash WITHOUT any current oversight or agreed upon limitations to their nuclear program? If you thought Obama's administration screwed up by making the original deal, don't you have to really hate the Trump administration's alterations? As it is today, we gave all that we gave and in return, we now have what in exchange? Nada? Wouldn't it have been better to keep the existing nuclear deal and to work to improve the other areas of disagreement? Except for the satisfaction of undoing Obama's presidency, what was the advantage of tearing up the agreement? Perfect example of why you should never post when you're stoned off your gourd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 make sure Tib's birthday is the first one pulled out of the ping-pong ball drum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: I get that folks hated the Obama Iran nuclear deal. I have read several posts talking about Obama's folly and pallets of cash. The deal included a lot of hope and prayers on how Iran would react to the invitation to 'normalize'. Over time they didn't seem to be normalizing however as their regional agitation persisted or arguably worsened. On the plus side though, it did buy some time to deal with their nuclear program short of attacking Iran. With the agreed upon oversight, their nuclear program was frozen to a large extent. Then, Trump decided to make a big splash and tear up the agreement. If you thought the Iran nuclear deal was a terrible deal from the US perspective, how does it look now after giving them their pallets of cash WITHOUT any current oversight or agreed upon limitations to their nuclear program? If you thought Obama's administration screwed up by making the original deal, don't you have to really hate the Trump administration's alterations? As it is today, we gave all that we gave and in return, we now have what in exchange? Nada? Wouldn't it have been better to keep the existing nuclear deal and to work to improve the other areas of disagreement? Except for the satisfaction of undoing Obama's presidency, what was the advantage of tearing up the agreement? Iran has been fomenting terrorist acts for decades. They got sanctions for doing so. They didn't like the sanctions and believed that by doing certain acts like sending their proxies to kill Americans and shoot down drones would make Trump crumble like Obama would. Trump just showed them that ain't happening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) and it's 1-2-3 what is Tibs figthing for don't ask me i don't give a damn his next stop is Tehhhhrannnnn Edited January 6, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Iran has been fomenting terrorist acts for decades. They got sanctions for doing so. They didn't like the sanctions and believed that by doing certain acts like sending their proxies to kill Americans and shoot down drones would make Trump crumble like Obama would. Trump just showed them that ain't happening. So, the advantage of tearing up the Obama Iran nuclear deal was what? You made a nice pro Trump statement but didn't answer the question. Please, try again. Except for the satisfaction of undoing Obama's presidency, what was the advantage of tearing up the agreement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 restoring sanctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: restoring sanctions? That is a possibility I guess. It seems pretty weak and fairly unlikely to me but about the best excuse I have read. Thanks for the response 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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