dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 ... zero Bills on either the first or second team defense. The Bills finished 2nd in points allowed, 3rd in yards allowed, 3rd in opposing team passer rating, 3rd in net yards per passing attempt allowed, 2nd in passing tds allowed, 10th in turnovers forced, 2nd in points allowed per drive, 4th in yards allowed per drive, and 5th in plays allowed per drive. They were also ranked 5th in overall defensive DVOA by Football Outsiders, for what it’s worth. Analytics! https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2019-pff-nfl-all-pro-team 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 PFF. lol 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Haven't said it in a while, but I hate PFF! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Chris Collinsworth part owner. Nuff Said 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Poor football focus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: ... zero Bills on either the first or second team defense. The Bills finished 2nd in points allowed, 3rd in yards allowed, 3rd in opposing team passer rating, 3rd in net yards per passing attempt allowed, 2nd in passing tds allowed, 10th in turnovers forced, 2nd in points allowed per drive, 4th in yards allowed per drive, and 5th in plays allowed per drive. They were also ranked 5th in overall defensive DVOA by Football Outsiders, for what it’s worth. Analytics! https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2019-pff-nfl-all-pro-team a good team can have a lot of good players without having the #1 at a position. Likewise a bad team can have the #1 at a position. tre is really the only one with a strong case, no? Edited January 1, 2020 by NoSaint 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Good. It means that it is a team defense and that the parts are relatively easy to mix and match. Unlike Houston (for example), when Watt went down so didnt the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: a good team can have a lot of good players without having the #1 at a position. Likewise a bad team can have the #1 at a position. Did you PFF writer Sam Monson’s staggeringly stupid thread about Tre White? There’s so much wrong with this I don’t even know where to begin. It’s as if he’s completely unaware that the Bills run a matchup-zone system. https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1212044325250580480 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 PFF is an absolute joke. I’m not sure why we even see threads like this started at this point. They obviously play favourites and are as close to Clickbait as it gets when it comes to media covering the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 One of PFF's analysts had an awful thread about Tre White's absence on this list: Does PFF know about zone defense? This is crazy. Here's a bonus just for fun: 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, NoSaint said: a good team can have a lot of good players without having the #1 at a position. Likewise a bad team can have the #1 at a position. tre is really the only one with a strong case, no? Jordan Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Good. Beane can use this in future negotiations with players. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: PFF is an absolute joke. I’m not sure why we even see threads like this started at this point. They obviously play favourites and are as close to Clickbait as it gets when it comes to media covering the NFL. I don’t think they play favorites as much as rely on a flawed system that simply can’t deal with the complexity of 22 moving parts on every play. Just as importantly, all of those moving parts are playing within schemes that vary from play to play based on an always evolving situational context, and PFF isn’t privy to the directives that coaches are issuing to their players. Edited January 1, 2020 by dave mcbride 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 How many DT in this league have more sacks than Jordan Phillips? Tre White needs to be on any All Pro team - thats not me being a homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 their PFF average linear logarithmic DVOaA isn’t high enough. Duuuuuhh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: One of PFF's analysts had an awful thread about Tre White's absence on this list: Does PFF know about zone defense? This is crazy. Here's a bonus just for fun: He also says that there were 21 plays in which he was beat and the qb didn’t connect, but doesn’t mention that the Bills played 5 games in absolutely dreadful conditions for qbs (4 with 20+ mph winds) that will change how a defense approaches its pass D. Edited January 1, 2020 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 All you have to know is in an age of expanding analytics PFF has had three employees hired by the NFL. context Giants just hired 4 “computer guys alone”. if they were so good at their proprietary system (and having a former NFL player as owner) they would have a ton more than 3 staff members hired up from them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I stopped at PFF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Sherman has had an impressive season but this has to be a joke. Oh yeah, its PFF, it’s implied that it’s a joke. the only Corner to lead the league in picks and give up zero tds since their existence. Meanwhile Sherman is covering behind the best DL in the NFL. Pressure much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I couldn't care less what Professionally Flawed Failures think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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