Gugny Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 From Sportrac: Trent Murphy signed a 3 year, $22,500,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $5,250,000 signing bonus, $10,375,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7,500,000. In 2019, Murphy will earn a base salary of $5,800,000, a roster bonus of $906,250, a workout bonus of $100,000 and a incentive bonus of $150,000, while carrying a cap hit of $8,706,250 and a dead cap value of $6,600,000. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Yeah I don't think this is true. All the contract sites don't mention this incentive. Also I think someone else would have confirmed it there are quite a few we don’t generally hear about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Why, perfect rotation guy... Eh a perfect rotation guy is solid on fundamentals and playing his job Murphy gets fooled on 7-10 playfakes .. Shaq has actually snuffed out 7-10 .. I much rather resign him and sign another free agent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: No, he continually got beat in run plays and was unable to hold the edge . The sacks he got were coverage sacks. Sorry, I’m not a pitch fork fan. I watch games and analyze what I see. Murphy has no jump off the ball and he can’t control the point of attach on run plays. He isn’t worth $7mil and no Hughes isn’t worth $11.5 mil probably. But with the cap amounts constantly creeping up, salaries will too. Personally I’d love to see the Bills address DE in the draft very early as well as FA. I trust Beane to do the right thing. I don't totally agree with your assessments but that cool's and opinionated on both sides. We are not over paying Murphy. If he walked tomorrow he would have the exact same structured contract somewhere else or prob make even more on another team. If he played a full time DE snap count roll, his stats would be out producing his current contract $$$ wise. That said, I much rather keep Lawson. Edited December 30, 2019 by Real McNasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: No, he continually got beat in run plays and was unable to hold the edge . The sacks he got were coverage sacks. Sorry, I’m not a pitch fork fan. I watch games and analyze what I see. Murphy has no jump off the ball and he can’t control the point of attach on run plays. He isn’t worth $7mil and no Hughes isn’t worth $11.5 mil probably. But with the cap amounts constantly creeping up, salaries will too. Personally I’d love to see the Bills address DE in the draft very early as well as FA. I trust Beane to do the right thing. assuming all else stays generally the same, we need a DE1, WR1, and RB2 this offseason. Whether draft, trade or free agency- its a crossroads where the price doesn’t matter much if they can land true immediate impact players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: A crap ton of money? Trent Murphy makes $7M AAV and had 5 sacks in a rotational role for Buffalo. By contrast, Trey Flowers makes $18M AAV and had 7 sacks for Detroit in a full-time role. Trent is generally paid on par with his production--he doesn't make a crap ton relative to his position. Boom......nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 We shouldn't compare our role players to the most overpaid starters in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: assuming all else stays generally the same, we need a DE1, WR1, and RB2 this offseason. Whether draft, trade or free agency- its a crossroads where the price doesn’t matter much if they can land true immediate impact players. Indeed. I really think that there's potential to get some big-name EDGE guys in trades this offseason. I wouldn't be surprised if any of Calais Campbell, Von Miller, or Chandler Jones got moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Chicharito said: My Father in law works for the bills and just told me that when Trent got his 2nd sack today he earned a 1 million dollar bonus. I can’t believe he made a bonus at 5 sacks in a season. This guy really got the bills for a crap ton of money . Who is your father in law and what does he do? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: assuming all else stays generally the same, we need a DE1, WR1, and RB2 this offseason. Whether draft, trade or free agency- its a crossroads where the price doesn’t matter much if they can land true immediate impact players. True. I think Beane and McDermott believe defensive rookies can impact the game more than offensive ones. It’s hard to argue this belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The combo against running teams with Murphy and Lawson vs. Hughes worked better than the rotation of Murphy/Lawson, and Hughes. Hughes is making quite a bit for someone not performing like he used to do. They probably keep Hughes as they take a hit financially, and WR, and DE, are two of the highest paid positions in free agency or trades. It‘s much more likely we draft both positions as well as drafting a hammer for a RB, and I think TE opposite Knox, and cut Kroft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, Chicharito said: My Father in law works for the bills and just told me that when Trent got his 2nd sack today he earned a 1 million dollar bonus. I can’t believe he made a bonus at 5 sacks in a season. This guy really got the bills for a crap ton of money . No wonder he looked so excited. I really hope he is not on the team next year has to be somebody better out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, Chicharito said: My Father in law works for the bills and just told me that when Trent got his 2nd sack today he earned a 1 million dollar bonus. I can’t believe he made a bonus at 5 sacks in a season. This guy really got the bills for a crap ton of money . Murphy doesn't get paid that much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: The combo against running teams with Murphy and Lawson vs. Hughes worked better than the rotation of Murphy/Lawson, and Hughes. Hughes is making quite a bit for someone not performing like he used to do. They probably keep Hughes as they take a hit financially, and WR, and DE, are two of the highest paid positions in free agency or trades. It‘s much more likely we draft both positions as well as drafting a hammer for a RB, and I think TE opposite Knox, and cut Kroft. we have a TON to spend. If drafting Both WR and DE, where are you spending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: He made 7mill this year and out produced Hughes who made 11.5mill. Bills fans love to pitch fork one or 2 players with zero context. Thing is Shaq had equally same year.... who is much younger and still has a ton of game left. Do you basically sign Shaq long term handing him Murphy’s money basically, $7M annually? 5 yr $30-35M...? I just don’t see a lot of game left in Murphy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: No, he continually got beat in run plays and was unable to hold the edge . The sacks he got were coverage sacks. Sorry, I’m not a pitch fork fan. I watch games and analyze what I see. Murphy has no jump off the ball and he can’t control the point of attach on run plays. He isn’t worth $7mil and no Hughes isn’t worth $11.5 mil probably. But with the cap amounts constantly creeping up, salaries will too. Personally I’d love to see the Bills address DE in the draft very early as well as FA. I trust Beane to do the right thing. I'm hoping they use the #1 pick on DE, prefer that to WR as easier to find good WR in FA than DE. That's why we're paying Murphy what we are for what we get. Having said that think it will come down to either Lawson or Murphy is back. That leaves one of these two, Hughes, rookie, and maybe Johnson take the 4th spot like this year assuming some additional improvement in run defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Thing is Shaq had equally same year.... who is much younger and still has a ton of game left. Do you basically sign Shaq long term handing him Murphy’s money basically, $7M annually? 5 yr $30-35M...? I just don’t see a lot of game left in Murphy. I bet Shaq walks, and ends up getting $10-$12/yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Captain_Quint said: I bet Shaq walks, and ends up getting $10-$12/yr If that’s the case we will know.... go after some big hitters in FA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, NoSaint said: we have a TON to spend. If drafting Both WR and DE, where are you spending? Good question. We resign like the Eagles do players we want earlier as the price always goes up, such as Lawson, Milano, White, any of the decent O-Lineman who either not under contract, or only have one more year. Then we have a better handle on what we want to do with our investments and save some for the following year, and the year after as Allen will cost money in a couple of years when he’s ready. I don’t know who to go after as we don’t have a clue who will really be available or will be tagged and do we want to trade away top draft picks, or do what Beane has done in the past and bundle picks to move up to get better quality. We have 9 picks. If we end up with 7 potentially solid guys, that would be awesome. I’m not against a high priced free agent if available if has a healthy history, younger in their career, and has runway with us. I could be one of those positions, or it could be in another spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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