zow2 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Gotta give him 3 full seasons before making absolute declarations. But I would like to see more designed short passes like the Pats do for Brady... and he should instinctively scramble more and slide. Too much backpedaling and throwing off his back foot. He needs to step up confidently and stop with the negative plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I wonder what he can do with a superstud WR that is open even when he is covered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Not saying that what you're saying is true but weren't people bitching about the exact opposite of this before the game? Edited December 22, 2019 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: If I told you at 4pm today that Allen would go 13-26 for 205 and run for 45 more throw 2 TDs and have zero turnovers would you have taken that? Would you have assumed that should equal a win? No he's not Elway.....yet. But my God if this kid doesn't have you excited considering his growth poise and leadership I don't know what to tell you. I am patient with young QB's, but he missed a few today that would have won this game, even though the team playing very poorly as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 He played a decent game against the best coach who also cheats in the history of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: I get that josh has 8 4th quarter/ot wins but the goal should be for him to be good enough to have the game won in the 4th quarter You are a genius, aren’t you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: I am patient with young QB's, but he missed a few today that would have won this game, even though the team playing very poorly as a whole. Yes we all saw this. No doubt. So do most QBs. They ALL miss throws. Evaluate the big picture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Daboll puts him into a bind too much with conservative throw away plays We were in 2nd and 9 or 2nd and 10 way too many times OL could not create holes at all. Given the D couldnt get off the field and O line gave us zero run game we still had a chance to tie and it was all Allen That run, run, run drive after we were up 17-13 didnt help I though we would be "fearless' with nothing on the line today. McConservative though otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Josh makes all the throws and misses all the throws. Can be frustrating but keep building around him. Keep things stable around him, add players around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, MDH said: He’s not that accurate but you can live with that. His biggest issue is his processing time. We need to see a big jump next year in how quickly reads a D and finds the correct guy to throw to. If he doesn’t improve dramatically next season then this regime will have a big decision to make. As it is all you have to do is all out blitz him and he freezes and tries to run out of it instead of planting his foot and firing the ball to an open guy. He just doesn’t know where to go with the ball. Not true at all he burned cover zero on the final drive with a throw to Beasley if he can do it once he can keep doing it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Not true at all he burned cover zero on the final drive with a throw to Beasley if he can do it once he can keep doing it If he can do it a single time that proves he’ll eventually be able to do it with regularity? No, it doesn’t. It was nice to see it on that play but consistency is what makes a franchise QB. I think we’ll see improvement next year but there is no guarantee he ever puts it all together. Obviously, we all hope he will. Edited December 22, 2019 by MDH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Perspective and patience. LOL. I remember when I would watch the Bills play the pats in Foxboro and the game would be over by the end of the first quarter. That wasn't the type of game I saw today. you win some you lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Rockee96 said: I don't think Josh is our franchise QB. Yes he makes amazing throws, but he consistently misses the easy ones. That is not a recipe for success. I know he has great leadership, personality, and heart, but at the end of the day, you have to make the easy throws. I doubt that at this point, his accuracy will improve. It's not about the receivers, the o-line, or coaching - we're not going to be consistent winners with Josh as our QB. Yes, he is better than the QBs we've had since Jim, but I don't see him winning for us consistently. You first sentence is naive and pre-mature. The rest is accurate. If this was a playoff environment, then he has to hit Knox on that last drive. That's when you are next level and ready as a QB. Based off this ONE GAME, where he also showed improvement in other areas, he has a little ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, buffalojedwardo said: Stfu let time take its course we’ve made it this long why ditch on the one guy who’s actually got us this far. Seems angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Rockee96 said: I don't think Josh is our franchise QB. Yes he makes amazing throws, but he consistently misses the easy ones. That is not a recipe for success. I know he has great leadership, personality, and heart, but at the end of the day, you have to make the easy throws. I doubt that at this point, his accuracy will improve. It's not about the receivers, the o-line, or coaching - we're not going to be consistent winners with Josh as our QB. Yes, he is better than the QBs we've had since Jim, but I don't see him winning for us consistently. This post is a joke. Gtfo. Allen kept fighting and it wasn’t until the coaching staff decided it was time for the defense to put the game away after we got the lead that it was in question. The script was flipped tonight. The offense kept the team in the game and the defense let us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, MDH said: If he can do it a single time that proves he’ll eventually be able to do it with regularity? No, it doesn’t. It was nice to see it on that play but consistency is what makes a franchise QB. I think we’ll see improvement next year but there is no guarantee he ever puts it all together. Obviously, we all hope he will. If you do something once it’s in your brain that you can keep doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: If I told you at 4pm today that Allen would go 13-26 for 205 and run for 45 more throw 2 TDs and have zero turnovers would you have taken that? Would you have assumed that should equal a win? No he's not Elway.....yet. But my God if this kid doesn't have you excited considering his growth poise and leadership I don't know what to tell you. Thank you Typically, a 250yd, 2TD and 0 turnover game leads to wins 9 out of 10 times for the Bills. Our D let up some very long drives today, missing many tackles which hurt. TOP was like 2:1 which doesn't work at all in this league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 his floor is higher than it was at the start of the season... as is his ceiling letʻs try and sneak a playoff win or two, and let Josh do what he does best: work at his craft and improve. couple that with building more weapons on O and guess what? HE IS THE FRANCHISE GUY in your face OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Allen openly acknowledges that he sucked in first half and was jittery. Says he needs to figure out how not to be jittery at the beginning of games. At least he's not shying away from what we all see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: I am patient with young QB's, but he missed a few today that would have won this game, even though the team playing very poorly as a whole. Pretty much this. I love Josh and want him to be here a long time. The Superman sneak part 2 is just one great example of why. But every game he has too many “smash the coffee table” throws. First drive should have been a TD. Missed two open shots that would have been TD’s. Last drive should have been a TD to Knox. Wide open in the end zone. Missed Cole when Cole got open by 5 yards and he still threw it in front of him by 5 yards. One a game? Sure. But tends to have 4 or 5 a game. I really, really hope this is something he can rein in soon. It is absolutely maddening. But all that said, still love the kid and glad he’s here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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