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2017 revisited...McDermott or ALynn for HC??


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53 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

If we hired Jim Schwartz that would’ve set the franchise back another 2-3 years. He’s a great DC but a horrible HC

 

I heard the same thing about a Browns Head Coach.  You may have heard of him ... Bill Bilicheat.

22 minutes ago, Helpmenow said:

Lynn  might be fired

 

"Might" like "maybe" has little meaning.  

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

And to make matters worse some other new HC playing GM traded what turned out to be the best QB to enter the league in decades to his division rival.?

 

Tough breaks!

 

It's funny the lack of perspective regarding the NFL with so many on this site.:lol:

 

I think it's more funny that you don't think Lynn has had way more to work with. Lets see here. Last year, Sean McDermott took a team whose starting QB was the most raw rookie quarterback in the draft (and possibly one of the most raw 1st rd quarterbacks of the last decade) with a top receiver who was an undrafted rookie, with a starting offensive line on which (aside from Dion Dawkins) not ONE of them is a starting-quality player to a 6-10 record. 

Anthony Lynn has, this year, in what (or at least I've been told this, because it's the "reason" the Bills have won 10 games this year) is a much softer AFC, taken a team that has Phillip Rivers (a first-ballot hall of famer) throwing to Keenan Allen, handing it off to Melvin Gordon and Austin Ekeler, and STUDS on the D-line in Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram, to a (currently) 5-9 record. 

 

If you are going to seriously sit here and tell me that Sean McDermott hasn't achieved more with less, then you are not even being realistic, you just don't like McDermott. And that's OK if you don't. Just come out and say it, don't dance around it. Because it's pretty obvious you have a bias and an agenda because no reasonable person would look at the talent on these two teams over the last three years and come to the conclusion that you seem to have come to. 

 

And FYI, the "we didn't draft Mahomes" horse was beaten dead the better part of two years ago.

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1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

That is kind of feeling you get when you are smothered in cheese.

 

For some of the Debbie Downers I agree.  Their parents made mistake of not using birth control.

What in the world are you talking about in this thread?

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5 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

So you note that these are career records but subtract the 1 win when Lynn was in Buffalo.  They have the same record  over the same period.

 

The difference may be that Lynn gets fired this year and McDermott will not.

 

Lynn also had one of the most talented rosters in the NFL. McDermott literally started from the bottom. It’s been amazing to watch a culture and talent rebuild in three years. I hope he’s our coach until he retires. 

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8 hours ago, CLTbills said:

So they essentially have identical records.

 

One coach had Tyrod Taylor one year, and the most “raw”rookie available, and while progressing, is definitely still a young QB learning on the job.

 

The other coach has had Phillip Rivers.

Rivers is overrated.  I think Ben and Eli from that QB group have had much better careers.

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13 hours ago, eball said:

 

2017 revisited...McDermott or ALynn for HC??

 

 

 

 

Seriously? Jeez, is your "friend" not noticing the trajectories of these two teams?

 

You can't compare Ws and Ls here, as McDermott rebuilt and that means a ton of losses. Lynn did not.

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9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Well the Pegula's thought the Bills had grossly underachieved too.    Did you forget the "7-9...not good enough" PC after the 2016 season?

 

The narrative that they "lacked talent" emerged only later as a defense mechanism/excuse.

 

The team McD inherited was known for excellent defensive talent and an offense that dominated on the ground and lead the NFL in big plays for 2 straight seasons.    

 

 

Flat-out nonsense. They lacked talent compared to what they were paying. Some good players but not enough, especially for a team that was spending their cap like a team in a Super Bowl window. And yet they didn't have a franchise QB.

 

They didn't have excellent defensive talent, they had three or four good players and a few other decent guys. To remind anyone who might think for an instant that you have a point, let's recap our starters on D that year:

 

Adolphus Washington

Kyle Williams

Marcell Dareus / Leger Douzable

Preston Brown

Lorenzo Alexander

Zach Brown

Jerry Hughes

Ronald Darby

Stephon Gilmore

Corey Graham

Corey White

 

That's not excellent defensive talent. It's Stephon Gilmore, Hughes, Kyle Williams on the downslope, Dareus after he'd stopped being able to rush the passer and was being paid too much ... and a bunch of players, some decent, some not.

 

That offense was just not good. 16th in the league and not explosive in the least. When we got behind we were out of the game.

 

They absolutely lacked talent, most particularly at the one place you absolutely have to have it, behind center. And when they then lost Eric Wood to career-ending injury and Incognito to mental problems they were even further behind the eight-ball.

 

They could have rebuilt with no QB and serious cap problems and no franchise QB. Thank God they were too smart for that. Instead they rebuilt, which brought them enough cap relief and draft capital to draft Allen, who might actually become a franchise QB, something Tyrod was in zero danger of ever becoming.

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10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No it wasn't. The full sentence was "when you have your guy you don't let him leave the building." 

 

The Pegulas decided Rex was the guy before the leave the building quote. It is one of those long misunderstood stories. 

 

 

 

Good point. Nice observation.

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11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No, no........say it right.........McD had Patrick Mahomes in hand........and traded him away..........with Tyrod Taylor as his #1 QB. :lol:

 

A lot has to play out right long term after you make the most egregious error in franchise history.

 

Hopefully it does but it's going to take more than losing a couple of road wildcard games..............gotta' raise that Lombardi before Mahomes does.:thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

And yet more nonsense. Tre White and Josh Allen could easily turn out to be a better combo than the singleton Mahomes, particularly without a year to sit behind Alex Smith while Andy Reid whispered in his ear. A lot has to play out right long term ... either way.

 

When KC gets a Lombardi doesn't matter. It only matters that the Bills become consistently competitive for a championship.

 

As McDermott has pointed out several times, he had too much to do laying the groundwork for getting this team headed in the right direction. Which we now see he did extremely well. He's said he didn't have time to scout QBs as thoroughly as he needed to take a chance on one that year. And he had Whaley as his GM, a guy who'd been all in on the EJ Manuel decision, certainly not a guy you would trust to pick your QB if he did trust him, and he clearly didn't as we discovered the day after the draft.

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