Bangarang Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 PFF can be useful for certain things but this is a historically dumb take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 be nice if JA were to see this. not that he needs any more motivation but something like this could motivate him even more. duck duck goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Koko78 said: Seems like the PFF author is just being edgy an ass to drive traffic to his article. This is true across the board for the entire analytics community. I don't know what their whole attitude is about. I follow a lot of these guys on Twitter. They are more interested in dunking on people they disagree with than providing analysis. They are quick to call out people who didn't like Lamar Jackson pre-draft, but they never admit how wrong they were about Josh Rosen. And honestly Josh Allen is already much better than most of them thought he would be. They seem very stuck on their preconceived notions based on what the analytics told them. To the point where until Allen is a consistent top 10 QB they won't admit they were wrong. Edited December 13, 2019 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Apologies if already posted. Gotta be honest, I agree with this post from Eric Eager. With better play from Josh we’re Super Bowl contenders. Here’s hoping he steps up. Edited December 13, 2019 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’m the same rational awesome poster as always. ? when this board tries to compare Allen with Mahomes, it is looney tunes. But To say ? is better? Well that is outright insane. and Allen better prove me right! ...."paging Mr. Edmunds......pick up the lobby phone for your assignment"........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, BarleyNY said: Gotta be honest, I agree with this post from Eric Eager. With better play from Josh we’re Super Bow contenders. Dang...I know what you mean. I think how the offense is run put JA as the lead dog. I think we could go into a run heavy, limit JAs attempts and win the old fashioned way. I really do believe they are throwing as much as they do because they need him to be able to do everything on the field to become a Franchise type player. I dont think its just about winning with this year its about making JA a complete QB......and winning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Big whoop. PFF is the QBR of analytics sites... (and I still hate Collinsworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Dang...I know what you mean. I think how the offense is run put JA as the lead dog. I think we could go into a run heavy, limit JAs attempts and win the old fashioned way. I really do believe they are throwing as much as they do because they need him to be able to do everything on the field to become a Franchise type player. I dont think its just about winning with this year its about making JA a complete QB......and winning. Yeah. I also think some of the better teams are doing their best to force the game into Josh’s hands. If he can make those teams pay, then the sky’s the limit for the Bills - especially considering our cap situation. It’d be a very sustainable team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 PFF is garbage for QB's. Absolute trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: For some reason, a part of DCOrange's post didn't show up when I quoted him. It was the following commentary from the PFF article. I honestly couldn't believe PFF was of this opinion. Counterpoint (EE): This is for all you doubters out there (yeah, I’m talking to you, PFF_Steve). All of you who think that throwing the ball accurately is more important in today’s NFL than having the arm strength to send the ball clear out of bounds in those stiff Buffalo winds. You idiots who don’t appreciate Mose Schrute’s brother frolicking through defenses on long-yardage plays en route to leading the league’s 26th-best offense. Those of you who mock and ridicule the decision to draft an ineffective college passer from the Mountain West more than 20 spots ahead of a Heisman Trophy winner than may soon be the NFL’s MVP. THIS ONE’S FOR YOU.Sure, the Steelers have what may very well be the league’s best defense. Yeah, they may be getting back one of the league’s most dynamic young receivers to join a stable full of emerging talent that also includes Diontae Johnson and James Washington. Yes, we know Heinz Field is one of the league’s premier home-field advantages. None of that is going to matter Sunday night when our boss slides into view, because Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen is on a roll. Only 31 starting quarterbacks have a better negatively graded throw rate than Allen. This is the game they drafted him for. That trash-talk is so trashy it's not even worth responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Gotta be honest, I agree with this post from Eric Eager. With better play from Josh we’re Super Bowl contenders. Here’s hoping he steps up. With better play from Josh and the OLine and the receivers/tight ends and running backs and better offensive coordinating from Daboll we’ll be Super Bowl contenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: To be fair when Josh Allen is bad he’s a bottom 3 QB (30-32). Allen is yet to register a 300 yard game & has generally been a midrange QB this year. Duck Hodges is the #28 QB on a good or bad day. To be fair when MOST QB’s are bad they look like they are bottom feeder QB’s. Are you saying Allen couldn’t have put up a 300 yard game or two if the game plan called was pass heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: To be fair when MOST QB’s are bad they look like they are bottom feeder QB’s. Are you saying Allen couldn’t have put up a 300 yard game or two if the game plan called was pass heavy? ...BIGGER question BOE is whether Dabumble would approve.....I'll take the hit as far as being a dumbazz non-conformist, but this guy gives me zero confidence as an OC that designs game plans playing to skill set strengths that BEST match up with the weekly opposition...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: To be fair when MOST QB’s are bad they look like they are bottom feeder QB’s. Are you saying Allen couldn’t have put up a 300 yard game or two if the game plan called was pass heavy? He put up 2 300 yards games in MWC. Definitely an overrated stat but dude rarely puts up monster passing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just hope we don't get this duck Sunday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Bills are 2nd in the league in dropped passes. Does PFF take that into account? Knox 6 dropped Beasley 4 Motor 4 Smoke 3 How much better would his numbers look if that's cut down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, noacls said: Bills are 2nd in the league in dropped passes. Does PFF take that into account? Knox 6 dropped Beasley 4 Motor 4 Smoke 3 How much better would his numbers look if that's cut down? Yes, they were pretty much the first group to actually take that into account. That's what their adjusted completion % numbers are for. Edited December 13, 2019 by DCOrange 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Nerds trying to like sports and be part of the cool crowd never goes well. That’s PFF in a nutshell. stick to chess nerds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) I wonder if the Steelers have read this. Think the Steelers would turn down a straight up trade? That’s all you need to know. . Edited December 14, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Hodges TD % this season : 5.0% of his throws are TDs JA TD % this season: 4.2% of his throws are TDs And again, given a guess at the better future, I and nearly everyone else would take Josh. But the question PFF raises is who is playing better right now. I think it's very fair to argue that that's Hodges. He's really doing a good job. You're conveniently overlooking Allen's rushing touchdowns. Why does everybody seemingly do this when discussing Allen? Rushing TD's don't count less when they come from a QB. It's not fair to argue that Hodges is better, sorry. It's short sighted and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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