dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 As measured by Football Outsiders: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: As measured by Football Outsiders: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef/2019 They're the DVOA people right? Pass. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: They're the DVOA people right? Pass. Your prerogative. I think it's a good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: They're the DVOA people right? Pass. I’m not a fan of statistics that are kept in secret either. That said, the point still stands. These 3 Ds are all top 4-5 in the league by most metrics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 we played Denver who was number 4 at the time and did just fine... Also hung one of the higher yardage totals on the Pats this year....we will be fine. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: we played Denver who was number 4 at the time and did just fine... Also hung one of the higher yardage totals on the Pats this year....we will be fine. Hope you're right, but it's still a tough stretch. Pitt has been playing lights out on D lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've said this a few times, but assuming we make it, this will make us a much better football team on wild card weekend than had the opposite been true. The Jets are no slouches defensively either. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Hope you're right, but it's still a tough stretch. Pitt has been playing lights out on D lately. I'm happy with the way Josh has been taking care of the ball -- I don't blame him for the sack/fumble against Baltimore. If he continues to protect the ball and the Bills commit no more than one turnover I do think they will be fine against the Steelers. Just now, arcane said: The Jets are no slouches defensively either. Don't sell them short, they are tremendous slouches. Edited December 12, 2019 by eball 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 In general, I do not like the idea of our Smurfy receivers playing against a physical secondary. I think it wears on them to the point of not being able to perform and the drops have something to do with that. Not calling them unwilling just not able to matchup physically for a whole game. I do like the idea of Duke Williams in this and I wonder why the Bills do not see the value of having a wide bodied, strong handed, tough to move, fight for the ball target in their offense. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, arcane said: I've said this a few times, but assuming we make it, this will make us a much better football team on wild card weekend than had the opposite been true. The Jets are no slouches defensively either. I agree and almost included that point. That may well be a run for the bus game, though, given the strong likelihood of crappy weather ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) you can't go all 16 weeks playing cupcakes The undefeated Dolphins didn't see a playoff team all their regular season, so you can sail through without facing a good team... Edited December 12, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 You want to be the best, you gotta beat the best. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I wonder if there are threads on the Steelers forums about "oh crap, our 3rd string QB has to face Buffalo's defense". I still have more confidence in our offense putting up 17+ points than the Steelers'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: I wonder if there are threads on the Steelers forums about "oh crap, our 3rd string QB has to face Buffalo's defense". I still have more confidence in our offense putting up 17+ points than the Steelers'. Of course not. Steeler fans don't fear any opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 They have good defenses, but DVOA is bull####. The patriots havent faces faces a single effective pass team that hasn’t beaten them. The Steelers are coming off a stretch where their biggest opponent was the Rams who were hot garbage. The ravens were the best of the three when you look at what offenses they’ve faced, and we hung with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Well--I think we'll do a lot better vs all 3 than vs Baltimore. How about that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: They have good defenses, but DVOA is bull####. The patriots havent faces faces a single effective pass team that hasn’t beaten them. The Steelers are coming off a stretch where their biggest opponent was the Rams who were hot garbage. The ravens were the best of the three when you look at what offenses they’ve faced, and we hung with them. BINGO!!! Drop the mic cuz you're 100% correct on everything 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, whatdrought said: They have good defenses, but DVOA is bull####. The patriots havent faces faces a single effective pass team that hasn’t beaten them. The Steelers are coming off a stretch where their biggest opponent was the Rams who were hot garbage. The ravens were the best of the three when you look at what offenses they’ve faced, and we hung with them. Dallas has the #1 pass offense in the league. I think the Bills certainly have a good chance to beat the Steelers, but it's worth noting that DVOA actually factors in quality of opponent, which raw yardage/points measures don't. Edited December 12, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Dallas has the #1 pass offense in the league. I think the Bills certainly have a good chance to beat the Steelers, but it's worth noting that DVOA actually factors in quality of opponent, which raw yardage/points measures don't. Good thing we beat Dallas already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: They're the DVOA people right? Pass. Yup. I see DVOA and I keep away 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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