row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: How in the world are smaller markets supposed to compete? i know, sports is supposed to be fair and every team, no matter how incompetent or useless, should be guaranteed a championship every 5 years or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Who doesn't want to be a Yankee? Good people........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, apuszczalowski said: I was comparing the Jays to Baltimore The only way they get close to competing with Boston & NY is if they get a new front office and new owners........ i don't want to have the rest of the month ruined by thinking about the Jays and Orioles in the same hour... always fun to applaud a pitcher who voluntarily goes to the AL East, at least he won't be facing the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: i know, sports is supposed to be fair and every team, no matter how incompetent or useless, should be guaranteed a championship every 5 years or so? That's not it, it's not an issue that teams should be guaranteed championships or winning teams, but about 3/4s of the league will never be able to compete with the Yankees or Red Sox just because they are the Yankees and Red Sox who can just throw money around and get what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Well, if you can't beat him. Sign him for 324 million dollars. Go Yanks. I miss George. He was good for sports and good for New York. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I remember when Randy Johnson went to NY and couldn't handle it. I hope that doesn't happen to Cole. This gets the Rangers off the hook for the most stupid contract of all-time (10-year Alex Rodriguez deal). It's not a stupid contract because there's no salary cap. They obviously don't give a crap about the luxury tax. Plus the MLB player's union is an actual functioning union that refused to be bullied by owners pushing for a hard cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: That's not it, it's not an issue that teams should be guaranteed championships or winning teams, but about 3/4s of the league will never be able to compete with the Yankees or Red Sox just because they are the Yankees and Red Sox who can just throw money around and get what they want. Tampa has done a great amount of competing at a fraction of the NYY/BoSox salaries. the imbalance in schedule is the worst part of it, a bad team like the Jays play 1/3 of their season against Bos/NYY/TB, no other division puts that much torture on a weak team for scheduling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: I remember when Randy Johnson went to NY and couldn't handle it. I hope that doesn't happen to Cole. This gets the Rangers off the hook for the most stupid contract of all-time (10-year Alex Rodriguez deal). Wasn't it stupider when the Yankees gave him a new ten years contract after ARod opted out of the last 3 years of the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Virgil said: Yankees reset the standard for elite pitching contracts. Crazy how far these contracts have come. NBA salary levels per year https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28271369/sources-yankees-gerrit-cole-agree-record-9-year-324m-deal @Mike in Horseheads Hope your other eye is still ok ? 7 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: In other news the O's are on target for the #1 pick in 2020,2021,2022..... Although I am a Yankee fan I am hoping Adley has a great major league career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Wasn't it stupider when the Yankees gave him a new ten years contract after ARod opted out of the last 3 years of the original? I hated that deal. Never wanted him in NY and hated when they extended him. Never worth it. 4 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: Hope your other eye is still ok ?. I’m more happy he didn’t stay in Houston. If we signed with the Dodgers I would have been just as happy. Him leaving was addition by subtraction. Verlander is going to fall off eventually, Grienke doesn’t scare me. If German gets his legal stuff figured out, then our rotation is insane. Cole, Severino, German, Tanaka, Paxton. We lost Didi, but we were stacked in the infield. Get a cheap DH/1B that’ll bat 9th and we are pretty set. I wish they could get rid of Stantons contract, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: I hated that deal. Never wanted him in NY and hated when they extended him. Never worth it. I’m more happy he didn’t stay in Houston. If we signed with the Dodgers I would have been just as happy. Him leaving was addition by subtraction. Verlander is going to fall off eventually, Grienke doesn’t scare me. If German gets his legal stuff figured out, then our rotation is insane. Cole, Severino, German, Tanaka, Paxton. We lost Didi, but we were stacked in the infield. Get a cheap DH/1B that’ll bat 9th and we are pretty set. I wish they could get rid of Stantons contract, but whatever. Well it still is an eye popping amount of money. Yankees rotation just got better barring injury, Need to see where the other free agent chips fall before I will assess the changes. The only problem I had during the ALCS was the lack of discipline at the plate. IMO, Astros and Nats (NLCS/WS) worked the count/plate much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, dpberr said: Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable. The MLB is America's pastime and therefore shouldn't fall victim to the socialist policies implemented by the NFL and NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, dpberr said: Can you imagine a MLB with an NFL-like salary cap? It'd force the cheap teams to spend money. Fans tend to hate the Yankees because they spend but the bigger issue is the growing number of teams that don't spend and the growing number of teams content with tanking for a few years to gobble up cheap prospects they can control so they don't have to spend money. A real salary cap would fundamentally change the game and take away the competitive advantage of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers. Perhaps give some teams a new lease on life with new owners (Pittsburgh,). Bob Nutting would sell the team before being told he'd be required to spend $150 million every year. There's zero parity in baseball. Yes, a small market team can be competitive, and perhaps can even win a World Series in any given year, but the money isn't there to make it sustainable. agreed. Nutting doesn’t have to spend any money. He can put a garbage product on the field and make a ton of money. Consider that that pirates team not long ago had Cole, Mark Melancon, and Charlie Morton— three critical players on playoffs teams this past year. He let them all walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Uncle Joe said: Although I am a Yankee fan I am hoping Adley has a great major league career. I'd just like the O's to become competitive again, sadly all these high picks if they work out will leave like Manny. At least I can't be accused to be a fair weather fan, supporting the Bills, Sabres O's and Nets the drought is since 1983. Ironically the year I got married! (It ended before everyone yells for a divorce! LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 oh yeah? Jays just came to terms with Tanner Roarke dancing, they're dancing in the streets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 See our resident envious Mets fans are out in force! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I'd just like the O's to become competitive again, sadly all these high picks if they work out will leave like Manny. At least I can't be accused to be a fair weather fan, supporting the Bills, Sabres O's and Nets the drought is since 1983. Ironically the year I got married! (It ended before everyone yells for a divorce! LOL) Hopefully you were around for the Palmer, McNally, Cuellar and Dobson era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Uncle Joe said: Hopefully you were around for the Palmer, McNally, Cuellar and Dobson era. Born in 1960, O's AA team was in Elmira and thats my connection. Earl Weaver manged here and most of the core played here for that era. 1969 losing to the Mets broke my heart. Little did I know what was to follow... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It's not a stupid contract because there's no salary cap. They obviously don't give a crap about the luxury tax. Plus the MLB player's union is an actual functioning union that refused to be bullied by owners pushing for a hard cap. Yep, but the sport is dying. No interest in about 70% of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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